Old Kemon Squeezer

[coffeync3]

I have had this old revolver for many years. The gentleman I got it from said that he had it "reworked" by a licensed gunsmith. Not sure what that means exactly. But the timing and lock up are absolutely perfect. I use it as my
"Mailbox gun". Old timers will know what that is. Caliber 32 S&W. I would like to know what it is, and approximate year of manufacture. The patent dates are on the barrel, but somewhat confusing. The sources I tried to research showed 1st model, 2nd. Model, etc ..
The revolver doesn't seem to have a serial number. The only number is a stamped number inside the cylinder. 1098XX. But maybe the pictures will help. Any information is greatly appreciated.

 

[gmborkovic]

Oh come on, its got a Sn. stamped on the frame at the bottom of the grip. Doesn't it?
If it has no Sn., I dont know you. Bye.

 

[wlw-19958]

Hi There,

The serial number was stamped on the butt of the frame,
back of the cylinder and the rear of the barrel. If the serial
number has been removed from the butt, it would indicate
the revolver was stolen at some point in its past.

Assuming the cylinder is the original one it came with and
the serial number is the correct one, this .32 S&W Safety
Hammerless "New Departure" is a 2nd Model and was made
sometime between 1902 to 1909.

Cheers!
Webb

 

[coffeync3]

Hi There,

The serial number was stamped on the butt of the frame,
back of the cylinder and the rear of the barrel. If the serial
number has been removed from the butt, it would indicate
the revolver was stolen at some point in its past.

Assuming the cylinder is the original one it came with and
the serial number is the correct one, this .32 S&W Safety
Hammerless "New Departure" is a 2nd Model and was made
sometime between 1902 to 1909.

Cheers!
Webb

Thank you. Second question: the revolver definitely does not have a serial number on the butt. I don't want to get in trouble with the big boys. Is this considered an antique which may not be a big deal ???
Or, can I just re- stamp the serial number on the button? I can do that if it looks like I may have a problem with ATF.

 

[wlw-19958]

Hi There,

This is an area I do not wish to comment because I don't know all the implications
and possible ramification of having a gun in which the serial number was removed.
I do have some ideas but I wouldn't like to lead you astray so I will reframe for now.

The only reason I can think of for removing the serial number is to obscure the owner-
ship. Theft is probably the main reason for doing this but there could be another
reason. But for whatever reason it was done, it was probably done for a nefarious
purpose.

Cheers!
Webb

 

[Club Gun Fan]

I'm too cute for prison!

 

[Tom S.]

Repeat after me:

I have the right to remain silent. Anything I say can and will be used against me in a court of law. I have the right to an attorney. If I cannot afford an attorney, one will be provided for me. I want my lawyer.

 

[65-2x2]

I wouldn't worry too much about the missing serial number on a piece that old. It would have to be a very lonely and bored arresting officer, prosecutor, judge and jury to go after a person for a missing serial number on a 100+ year old gun. Now, that is not legal advice, but just my opinion.

 

[Club Gun Fan]

I wouldn't worry too much about the missing serial number on a piece that old. It would have to be a very lonely and bored arresting officer, prosecutor, judge and jury to go after a person for a missing serial number on a 100+ year old gun. Now, that is not legal advice, but just my opinion.

You should have a casual conversation with a BATFE agent sometime! I know, I have. Pick out a young one. Someone that wants to make a name for him/her self. Your correct it won't go far in court, but after you've spent unknown $$$$, come back and tell us all about it.

 

[jeffrefrig]

What's a Kemon?

 

[gmborkovic]

Everybody knows that. A kemon is a small kemon colored fruit from Kenya.
Its used to make kemonaide, pies and jello.

 

[glowe]

Your revo

. . . Is this considered an antique which may not be a big deal ???
Or, can I just re- stamp the serial number on the button? I can do that if it looks like I may have a problem with ATF.

That revolver is NOT an antique as noted in a previous post. Antique status ended in 1899. It appears that the original serial number location on S&Ws was always on the butt, bottom or front. Factory installed lanyard rings were sometimes installed and drilled through the serial number. They would then stamp the number on the front strap or under the stocks on the butt frame. If it is not there, technically it is not legal to own.

I know of some guns where the owner had the serial number restamped, which is not legal without BATF approval, but could a law enforcement officer tell the difference if done well?? Not a recommendation from me however.

 

[coffeync3]

Your revo

That revolver is NOT an antique as noted in a previous post. Antique status ended in 1899. It appears that the original serial number location on S&Ws was always on the butt, bottom or front. Factory installed lanyard rings were sometimes installed and drilled through the serial number. They would then stamp the number on the front strap or under the stocks on the butt frame. If it is not there, technically it is not legal to own.

I know of some guns where the owner had the serial number restamped, which is not legal without BATF approval, but could a law enforcement officer tell the difference if done well?? Not a recommendation from me however.

THANK YOU. The little gun will probably reside in a drawer in my garage as long as I live. I have the means to stamp it. Problem is, not enough room on the little butt to stamp 6 numbers. I will do the last 4, and, as you said, maybe that would get by with a local officer

 

[coffeync3]

What's a Kemon?

LEMON .... SORRY. I went to a city school. Good reason to spell check before hitting send.

 

[65-2x2]

That old gun was so good that the Beatles sang a song about it, "The way you squeeze my lemon now, I'm going to fall right out of bed."

 

[GaryBrantley]

That old gun was so good that the Beatles sang a song about it, "The way you squeeze my lemon now, I'm going to fall right out of bed."

Led Zeppelin, perhaps? Maybe not the Beatles.