On Keeping Quiet

Faulkner said:
Just as a point of interest, I've been in law enforcement for 22 years and I've never seen a LEO carry a single action auto on duty.
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I've seen Colt .38 and .45 autos in use and one Dallas officer had a Renaissance Grade Browning 9mm back in the 1960's.

Today, I think SA autos are limited to SWAT teams, sheriffs, and constables who set their own rules, and to Texas Rangers.

One famous Ranger captain even had the trigger guards cut off of his .45 autos, but that was back in the 1950's. I doubt it made them any faster to fire and I don't like the looks or safety factor of those guns.

In the military, I suspect that Delta Force and some SEALS and Special Forces in some assignments carry SA autos cocked and locked.
 
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I have given up trying to help stupid cashiers give me the correct change instead of shorting themselves. :o I've never once been thanked for my honesty, but I sure as heck have been treated with disdain, anger and even insults bordering on lunacy for my efforts. :eek: Crazy but true. :rolleyes:
 
I never (yip, that's an absolute) instigate, but I usually respond to something I perceive as wrong. I make a point of not being sarcastic or smarmy about it.

Was in the local mom 'n' pop eatery for lunch. A dozen of the guys on the Continental Divide Trail Race (Canada to Mexico on mountain bikes) were in line to pay for their lunch and get back to racing. The last guy in line raced to the front of the line and demanded, in a French accent, to be allowed to pay ahead of the other guys. "Mom" looked at him and told him to get back in line. He was incensed and let out this dissertation about not being treated fairly. The other guys said he'd been like that everywhere along the route. "Mom" cleared the line, including the guy from Quebec. He made a point of not leaving Mom a tip so I gave him one: "The smaller the town you're in the nicer you should be to the people who are serving you." He sneered.

Some folks have told me to keep my thoughts to myself after I've offered an opinion. I tell them I defended their freedom of speech for 28 years, and at the same time I was also defending mine. Never had that go wrong, so far.
 
OLDNAVYMCPO said:
As a Chief Petty Officer during Vietnam, I was in San Diego fixing to go aboard the USS constellation. I was at the Navy Exchange on North Island doing some last minute shopping before the ship pulled out. I noticed a young Ensign in uniform with his ribbon bar backwards. I thought I was doing him a favor by quietly telling him of his mistake. He reacted like he was gut shot, did an immediate about face and virtually ran out of the store. That was 45 years ago and I vividly remember it. I oftenH wonder if he was a poser, spy or just embarrassed.
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Hey Chief,
I was on the Oklahoma City homeported in Yokosuka. Were you on board when the Constellations crew bought all those motorcycles (about 750) to take back with them? Around 1971 or so. Dean
 
Faulkner said:
Just as a point of interest, I've been in law enforcement for 22 years and I've never seen a LEO carry a single action auto on duty.
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In the mid 80's a 1911 was the Dept issue for local county Deputies. It was optional for Reserve Officers.
 
There is a time to keep quit and a time to speak up.

If I am shopping and find I either got too much money back (rare when using credit cards so much) or did not get charged for an item, I always go back and bring it up. No amount of money is worth a black mark on my soul. I'd hate to be in front of the pearly gates and be told "Well we would let you except because of that one time you weren't honest about that $1 soda."

Also remember that just because you did the right thing doesn't mean you won't get punished for it. No good deed goes unpunished.
 
I think the farther west you go and where departments allow the deputies and police to carry what they want you will probably find more 1911's being carried.
 
41 fan said:
Hey Chief,
I was on the Oklahoma City homeported in Yokosuka. Were you on board when the Constellations crew bought all those motorcycles (about 750) to take back with them? Around 1971 or so. Dean
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We did in 1972. In 1971, I was on the Independence and we brought back a large sail boat, took up a lot of space on the hangar bay. In '72, half the hangar bay was taken up with bring back goods for the crew.
 
Here is an instance where I was quiet and should have spoken up. I was at a public range waiting to sight in my muzzleloader prior to deer season. The bays were all full of others doing the same thing so I was just people watching.

I watch a guy loading up and look away, when I looked back he was preparing to shoot. I did a double take because it looked like his ram rod was still in the barrel. Being a newbie to mloading, I thought well maybe the rod is just extending a bit beyond the barrel while in it's guides. Unfortunately, I was right, the guy pulled the trigger and it about knocked him off the bench. He was looking around bewildered and I ran up to make sure he was okay. To make a long story short, he was new to mloading and had gotten distracted failing to remove the ram rod. When the all clear was called we went down range and that bullet was neatly fused on the end of the ram rod. They guy was asking me if the gun was safe to shoot. I told him that it needed to be inspected by a competentgunsmith, before even considering firing it again. Scared the living sh** out of me. I felt bad because I saw it and didn't say anything because of my own inexperience. In the future, I will make the mistake before letting someone potentially get hurt. That guy was one lucky dude.
 
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I was a consultant to my former employer for a few years after I retired. New management did not take my advice. I grew frustrated, said, "What the heck do you need a consultant for if you won't listen to my advice!," and quit.

It was gratifying when my former employer came back a few months later with, again, new management, and asked to rehire me. That gig worked out well for all, and I retired again with lots of good will six months later, no hard feelings on either side. Just thought it was time for me to hang it up.

(Last I heard, the former employer has new management yet again.)
 
Onomea said:
I was a consultant to my former employer for a few years after I retired. New management did not take my advice. I grew frustrated, said, "What the heck do you need a consultant for if you won't listen to my advice!," and quit.

It was gratifying when my former employer came back a few months later with, again, new management, and asked to rehire me. That gig worked out well for all, and I retired again with lots of good will six months later, no hard feelings on either side. Just thought it was time for me to hang it up.

(Last I heard, the former employer has new management yet again.)
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"You can bring facts to management but you can't make them think."
 
Faulkner said:
Just as a point of interest, I've been in law enforcement for 22 years and I've never seen a LEO carry a single action auto on duty.
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Really? I work part time at a local PD and most of the detectives carry 1911s. Its also not uncommon to see uniformed coppers with 1911s. Maybe its a western thing.
 
keith44spl said:
Really???

Never saw an officer carrying a 1911???

I'm gonna stop right 'bout here....
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sigp220.45 said:
Really? I work part time at a local PD and most of the detectives carry 1911s. Its also not uncommon to see uniformed coppers with 1911s. Maybe its a western thing.
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Nope, never have seen an officer who carried a single action auto on duty, and I'm a range officer so I see all kinds. Maybe it is a regional thing. I've even seen a couple of deputies from a rural county who carried Single Action Army revolvers, but they have both since retired.

Now, I have seen a few officers qualify with 1911's or Hi-Powers for off duty carry.
 
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