On Keeping Quiet
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keith44spl
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Really???
Never saw an officer carrying a 1911???
I'm gonna stop right 'bout here...
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Geronimo Jim
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Everybody gets advice, only the wise profit from it.
I was a consultant to my former employer for a few years after I retired. New management did not take my advice. I grew frustrated, said, "What the heck do you need a consultant for if you won't listen to my advice!," and quit.
It was gratifying when my former employer came back a few months later with, again, new management, and asked to rehire me. That gig worked out well for all, and I retired again with lots of good will six months later, no hard feelings on either side. Just thought it was time for me to hang it up.
(Last I heard, the former employer has new management yet again.)
It was gratifying when my former employer came back a few months later with, again, new management, and asked to rehire me. That gig worked out well for all, and I retired again with lots of good will six months later, no hard feelings on either side. Just thought it was time for me to hang it up.
(Last I heard, the former employer has new management yet again.)
zogger
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"You can bring facts to management but you can't make them think."
sigp220.45
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Really? I work part time at a local PD and most of the detectives carry 1911s. Its also not uncommon to see uniformed coppers with 1911s. Maybe its a western thing.
Faulkner
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Nope, never have seen an officer who carried a single action auto on duty, and I'm a range officer so I see all kinds. Maybe it is a regional thing. I've even seen a couple of deputies from a rural county who carried Single Action Army revolvers, but they have both since retired.
Now, I have seen a few officers qualify with 1911's or Hi-Powers for off duty carry.
HOUSTON RICK
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My Grandfather: Never get between a fool and his stupidity.
Bible: Proverbs 26:4 ►
Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be just like him.
Bible: Proverbs 26:4 ►
Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be just like him.
chaparrito
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HR guy to old man interviewing for a job:
"What's your biggest weakness?"
Old guy: "Honesty".
HR guy: "I don't think honesty's a weakness."
Old guy: "I don't give a rat's hind end WHAT you think."
"What's your biggest weakness?"
Old guy: "Honesty".
HR guy: "I don't think honesty's a weakness."
Old guy: "I don't give a rat's hind end WHAT you think."
oneounceload
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George Carlin:
"Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience."
"Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience."
I was in a store and this lady had a young boy with her. The boy had a red laser designator and was having a grand time pointing the laser at people and putting a red dot on their back or front. I asked the lady if she wanted to get her boy killed? She gave me a stupid looked and I told that if he put the red dot on a police officer, there would be a very good chance her boy would be shot. She made some crud and rude comments and said that would never happen and hustled her boy out of the store. Maybe she let him go play in the street!
hardcase60
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I was about 20 yrs old dispatching on the day shift for a small PD. One morning a patrol officer carrying a "cocked & locked" 1911 was coming through a door from the holding cells into a hallway. That's when the hammer got bumped/caught under the door knob. The resulting unintentional discharge put a .45 slug in the officers thigh. He went to the floor screaming, the Lt. ran out of the break room screaming, the chief ran out of the day room screaming. It was chaos at high volume. That was my first experience with an officer involved shooting. Now mostly it's non uniformed officers you see carrying .45's that way but every time I think back 40+ years to that incident. hardcase60
sousana
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47 years shooting the 1911. I've carried it in combat, and since 1982 it's been my concealed carry weapon. I've yet to have an accidental discharge.
Once, as a Corpsman stationed at Camp Lejeune, I worked as the range safety corpsman while a group of gunnery sergeants, behind steel plated shielding attempted to get a loaded 1911 to fire when dropped. They tossed it many many times both with the safety engaged and with the safety off. After about 150 try's, they gave up.
She was probably closer to right than you were . . .
bgrone
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keping quiet
Sometimes I question whether to say something or just start videoing .
Sometimes I question whether to say something or just start videoing .
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So, why you figure the 1911 fired in Hardcase60's example of the hammer hitting the doorknob?
Something like push off with a revolver? Worn part? Or perhaps the thumb safety was not engaged?
(Not doubting either of you. Just hoping to learn.)
sousana
Member
Most likely a worn part. I've seen too many 1911's in my time with the Marines that were WWII and Pre-WWII builds that shook rattled and rolled, but were extremely well maintained by Marine armorers that never had issues, however, at ranges over the years I've seen quite a few 1911's fail, a few accidental discharges, and in one instance, a stainless colt gov't 1911 go full auto.
The AD's for the most part were attributed to operator fault, but I've seen my share of degraded parts simply because proper maintenance wasn't done.
About 15 years ago in the gunshop I was picking up a Springfield M1 Garand, while there a local LEO came in and wanted to shoot his primary and BUG. As per range rules at that time all guns were inspected by the RO prior to going on the line. The officers primary weapon passed but the comment was made that he should lube the weapon. Upon inspection of his SW Mod 36, the RO refused to allow it on or near the range. Why? the bbl was plugged with foreign debree and the cylinder hardly turned due to the crud buildup. When asked why he allowed his BUG to degrade so badly he responded, how'd it get so dirty? I never use it.
amazingflapjack
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I'm going to say something, as I would want someone to say something to me.
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When it comes to matters of safety, whether shooting or otherwise, I never keep silent. Nor when it comes to matters of finance.
Squarebutt
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It's usually appreciated when I tell a friend that his fly is open. Wish someone had told me before I walked into church that morning. 
In the western United States some jurisdictions allow officers to carry their own sidearms and often allow single action semi autos that are cocked and locked. Just FYI. My own agency adopted this policy but I chose to carry the department issued GLOCK 22 for a number of reasons.
"It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool,
than to speak and remove all doubt." Abraham Lincoln
than to speak and remove all doubt." Abraham Lincoln
