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[claude]

another victory to add to database. v275295 matching underside barrel, cylinder and ejector. smooth walnut stocks, r stock v 276582. v face cylinder, under barrel, butt and r grip(stocks off) cylinder open frame d2 #33675 and same yoke. left top strap ord mark united states property GHD. ord mark left side of butt before v.4" barrel 38spl. usual s & w markings. finish appears to be sandblast blue same as my pre-navy. regarding pre-victory sn 967888 with stamped property of us navy filled with red paint(two lines) that i posted 10/16/2007. trip to florida and navy was examined by a s & w collector. his opinion navy is correct. ordnanceguy do you have any info on pre-navy?

 

[claude]

another victory to add to database. v275295 matching underside barrel, cylinder and ejector. smooth walnut stocks, r stock v 276582. v face cylinder, under barrel, butt and r grip(stocks off) cylinder open frame d2 #33675 and same yoke. left top strap ord mark united states property GHD. ord mark left side of butt before v.4" barrel 38spl. usual s & w markings. finish appears to be sandblast blue same as my pre-navy. regarding pre-victory sn 967888 with stamped property of us navy filled with red paint(two lines) that i posted 10/16/2007. trip to florida and navy was examined by a s & w collector. his opinion navy is correct. ordnanceguy do you have any info on pre-navy?

 

[opoefc]

Claude, Unless that experienced S&W collector who examined your "pre-Navy" is Roy Jinks and he will write you a letter that says the factory records say it's a Navy gun, then all is guesswork. All Victory Models are just another Model 1905, 4th change, with a dull finish, until you have the factory letter to document the DNA. Too many fake Navy guns around to rely on anything other than the letter for the gun. Ed.

 

[claude]

thanks i will letter.

 

[ordnanceguy]

Originally posted by claude:
Regarding pre-victory sn 967888 with stamped property of us navy filled with red paint(two lines) that i posted 10/16/2007. trip to Florida and navy was examined by a s & w collector. his opinion navy is correct. ordnanceguy do you have any info on pre-navy?

Hello Claude:

Thanks for the additional information. From your serial number we can estimate from the Database that your pre-Victory was likely shipped from the factory in the April, 1942 time frame. There are a couple of other guns in this general serial range in the Database that are Navy shipped guns.

I would have to examine the revolver or see some very good pics of in in order to determine if the Navy markings on the left frame are authentic, as they are now a favorite of the fakers.

The factory letter will tell you if it was indeed shipped to the Navy and when. I hope that when you get your letter you will let us know what it says, and we can then add that info to the Database.

Thanks again.

Charlie

 

[claude]

thanks mailed today requesting letter on three that i own. will share results. also might provide photo of pre-navy.

 

[claude]

tried to e-mail but not successful. send photos of pre-navy via forum?

 

[ordnanceguy]

Hi Claude:

Try sending them to me at [email protected], and remove the NOSPAM reference of course.

Charlie

 

[claude]

charlie thanks for all your help. question bullseye smith(post 11/15 v293328) victory description is the same as my(post11/14) victory v275295, could mine possibly be part of same navy order.

 

[claude]

Hi, I attempted to send you 10 digital photos of the pre-victory Navy through your e-mail [email protected]. I removed the nospam portion as you advised. Is this correct. I will attempt to send it again. Please advise. Claude

 

[claude]

Please note. The S in Seipp was ginally send as upper cap. Thanks. Claude

 

[ordnanceguy]

Email sent to Claude.

Charlie