Oregon Man Killed in Yellowstone: Darwin in Action
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Frank237
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Local news reported that several witnesses watched the idiot trek out 200+ yds, then fall through the crust out of sight.
Thankfully no one else was injured trying to find the idiot.
And another tourist was beat up by a bison a few days ago. Guy was from Australia...you would think he'd know better. No shortage of idiots down under either I guess.
Thankfully no one else was injured trying to find the idiot.
And another tourist was beat up by a bison a few days ago. Guy was from Australia...you would think he'd know better. No shortage of idiots down under either I guess.
This is more what i pictured. ^^^^^^
You can't fix stupid !!!
Body just not recovered yet, if ever.
Hope the officials at Yellowstone do NOT put someone
in harms way to retrieve this body. Not worth it.
There are accidents, then there are idiots who put
themselves "and others" in Danger by thinking rules
do not apply to them. This guy was the latter.
Darwin got a good one.
Chuck
The NEWS was not entirely correct, "The temp of 459F was at 1,000 feet down at the surface "There are very few thermal features at Norris under the boiling point (199°F at this elevation)."
"Norris Geyser Basin comprises of three main areas: Porcelain Basin, Black Basin, and One Hundred Springs Plain. It is one of the most dynamic places in Yellowstone National Park because some of the pools here are some of the oldest, hottest and most acidic around. This thermoacidophilic niche is typically located in aquatic environments with high moisture content, including various geothermal hot springs and volcanic mud pools. The niche is adapted to highly acidic environments, generally with a pH of less than 4. Due to active volcanic activities in the area, the springs and pools in which the acidophilic niche is found are typically of fairly high temperature, usually ranging from 65 to 90 degrees Celsius. The niche is typically immersed in pools with high sulfur contents, either as hydrogen sulfide (H2S(g)) emitted as a volcanic gas, or as elemental sulfur crystals. Some niches are also found in pools rich with other metals, typically iron (1)."
Hope that is acidic enough for you.
So as we can apparently not link direct to things perhaps take a tour of the Norris Basin at Yellowstone
The guy is dead and dissolved.
Be comfortable sitting at home safe behind your computer screen and ridicule others less fortunate. What a crowd.
Pretty sad.
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RobertJ.
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I never ridicule anyone less fortunate.
Less intelligent, that's another story!
I put leaving the trail in a geo-thermal area right up there with trying to take a selfie with a bison!
shouldazagged
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Not a hoax. Stupid on his part, yes, but still a tragedy for his family--especially the sister who was with him and presumably saw it happen--and friends who loved him.
I can't find a damn thing to laugh about here.
I can't find a damn thing to laugh about here.
Any loss of life is a great tragedy. He was somebody's son. His family has suffered a great loss and his passing should not be made light of.
Whether the loss is because of a momentary lapse of judgement or for any other reason, it's still a very sad occasion for his loved ones.
People belittling him just makes it harder for his family.
Lets just learn from this tragedy and move on.
Whether the loss is because of a momentary lapse of judgement or for any other reason, it's still a very sad occasion for his loved ones.
People belittling him just makes it harder for his family.
Lets just learn from this tragedy and move on.
Apparently witnesses heard him say "Hey sis, hold my beer and watch this."
Sorry, I could not resist. Yes this is a tragedy and very difficult for the family but one would think that an educated person would have had enough common sense not to walk 200' off the marked trail in an area that most folks would consider dangerous.
Many of life's lessons don't come with a second chance.
Sorry, I could not resist. Yes this is a tragedy and very difficult for the family but one would think that an educated person would have had enough common sense not to walk 200' off the marked trail in an area that most folks would consider dangerous.
Many of life's lessons don't come with a second chance.
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RobertJ.
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This was a very good post, and I agree completely.
I apologize to everyone for bringing it to attention as something that should be laughed at.
Over 450 PSI.....
Over 450 psi the boiling point of water is 400 degrees. In the underground, pressure builds up and prevents the water from becoming steam, until it get close enough to the surface, lessening pressure until it hits the flash point where it SUDDENLY turns into steam. That's how geysers geys.
Over 450 psi the boiling point of water is 400 degrees. In the underground, pressure builds up and prevents the water from becoming steam, until it get close enough to the surface, lessening pressure until it hits the flash point where it SUDDENLY turns into steam. That's how geysers geys.
M E Morrison
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JcMack
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I expect to see the manufacturer of the flip flops to make a commercial about their durability.
Rpg
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Sounds like he got into hot water.
venomballistics
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I can see the cause for suspicion here ...
but understand .. it takes a human body to retrieve one
the articles I've read on the incident claim its too risky to try recovery. If they managed to skim off his flip flops, thats a somewhat noble effort considering someone else had to figure a way around getting liquefied themselves
susieqz
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it's interesting to see that we are mostly darwinians here.
sorry, i feel little sympathy for this person.
sorry, i feel little sympathy for this person.
muddocktor
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I feel very sorry for this boy's family and especially for his sister, who watched him off himself. But, I don't feel much of anything for the man. This was not a teenager, but a 24 year old man who decided that he was smarter than the US Park Service and everyone else as to what and where was safe to go. 
And from what little I read this afternoon, they have called off the search for any more remains because of the danger for the searchers, plus the likelihood of any recoverable remains is extremely remote. From what Rule3 posted, the fluid at that site is most probably a fairly strong solution of sulfuric acid and I read today that at surface where he went into the pool, averages around 190 degrees F. So, you have hot acid this boy fell into and even if it's only around a 4 pH or so, it wouldn't take long for it to break down the flesh and cartilage to nothing. And the bones would then drift down to the bottom of the pool and eventually they would be dissolved away too. The flip flops are probably made of a rubber or plastic type compound and would float and be resistant to the acid. Sulfuric acid is shipped in plastic containers all the time. Don't believe me, go look under the hood of your car. Your lead acid battery uses sulfuric acid as it's electrolyte.
And from what little I read this afternoon, they have called off the search for any more remains because of the danger for the searchers, plus the likelihood of any recoverable remains is extremely remote. From what Rule3 posted, the fluid at that site is most probably a fairly strong solution of sulfuric acid and I read today that at surface where he went into the pool, averages around 190 degrees F. So, you have hot acid this boy fell into and even if it's only around a 4 pH or so, it wouldn't take long for it to break down the flesh and cartilage to nothing. And the bones would then drift down to the bottom of the pool and eventually they would be dissolved away too. The flip flops are probably made of a rubber or plastic type compound and would float and be resistant to the acid. Sulfuric acid is shipped in plastic containers all the time. Don't believe me, go look under the hood of your car. Your lead acid battery uses sulfuric acid as it's electrolyte.
Ranger514
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There have been dozens of deaths from folks who have fallen into Yellowstone thermal pools dating back to before the park was created. If you want an education, read "Death in Yellowstone." Warning signs are posted everywhere, and still folks disregard to get a closer look. Helluva nasty way to die.
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