Out Of My Price Range….

I am curious to know the value of this "plain" one compared to the subject gun.
Ed
Ed, "value" is a very subjective thing, which is why we often say the value is whatever someone is willing to pay for something is its value. It sounds trite, but it is true.

What we know about the Nighthawk Lollar Korth above is what someone is asking for it. I just checked Nighthawk's site and don't see that model listed, but I seem to recall seeing them in the past for prices around $10K.

I paid about $5K for the gun pictured, and, since I had been researching Korths for several months by the time I bought it, leapt at the opportunity as I thought, and still believe, that it was a very good deal.

As with most things we collect, there are all sorts of variables to consider with Korths. When and where was it made, what model is it, how many were there, what is the condition, etc.

Threads on Korths, on this forum and on others, pretty much invariably draw comments on why would anyone be crazy enough to spend that much money on buying something that is pretty much functionally the same as guns which cost far less.

The explanation that makes the most sense to me is that it is the same reason that some guys will, say, spend far more money than most of us on high end mechanical watches. The beauty of the engineering and craftsmanship, the painstaking effort to create the piece, appeals to some of us more than to others.

And, sure, you need to be fortunate enough to be able to afford it.

I'll add that I am a novice Korth collector. There are fellows out there with far greater knowledge than I have who have freely shared their knowledge, and to whom I am indebted for what I have been able to learn.
 
I don't understand the whole Korth thing.

Let's see... a Korth, or 10 or more S&W's... :confused:


Have you ever held one?

This same train of thought came out when the Baer/Brown/Nighthawk/Wilson types of 1911s hit the market. "Why pay $2000+ when I can get a Colt for half that?"

Keep in mind the Korth in the above pic IS their Executive model, not their standard model. Their standard models are around half that price, maybe a hair less?

Since Janz has pretty much dropped their revolver line, Korth is by far & away THE best revolver made in the world today. In fact, it's not even close.

My .o2
 
Am I right in thinking Nighthawk did that and not the Korth factory?

No, Korth has had this model out for several years now.

It's clearly designed as a gift-type piece for someone who might be retiring & is into guns.

Colt has some 1911s that are engraved & inlayed costing close to that. They're on Gun Broker.
 
If it takes them sixty hours of “hand fitting,” there are some problems with their processes. Good heavens! That’s hard to imagine! :o Maybe that figure includes all fitting, polishing, and finishing? Still seems like an awful lot.


"Problems"? Seriously? :confused:

The Bugatti models sell for close to a million dollars. Porsche has a carbon fiber body model for a cool $1mil. There's a great deal of hand fitting on those cars too. Do they have "problems"? :rolleyes:
 
Korths are four or more times more expensive than other brand name revolvers. Do they shoot 4-5 times better?

Most of the time, yes, they do. Ask their owners.

I actually sold one to a buyer (duh!) at a gun shop in Nashville. Obviously, he had money. He came back in later & said he'd stopped shooting his other pistols after shooting the Korth.

Owning a Korth is like owning a Bentley or Rolls. It'll do the same thing as a Ford Focus, but just a whole, whole lot better and smoother.
 
If you think that’s high, try to buy a Korth AutoPistol sometime. They built less than 300 and they typically change hands for 3-4 times the price of that revolver.




I got to finger bang one of those years ago at the Shot Show. Amazing engineering & build.
 
I got to finger bang one of those years ago at the Shot Show. Amazing engineering & build.

Yeah they use a modified version of Walther’s falling block locking design. Extremely well made, but they were more of a curious project by Willi Korth. Never really meant for large production. Hence, they were being handbuilt for 15-20 years and less than 300 were made. That includes some fancy special editions.

The newer Korth PRS is actually a more serious shooter. They are still being produced on a limited basis, but I hear wait times are such that Korth stopped taking orders.

I’ve got this 6” model and I have a 5” coming from overseas at some point. It’s a roller delayed blowback design, very complex.

 
I guess that the appeal for Korths, Manurhin, SPOHR, and other extremely high end guns depends upon your financial position. Just look at trap and skeet shooters and see how much some of them will pay for a fine European shotgun. Or big game hunters that own Holland & Holland or Purdey rifles. How about the 1911 fans that have ridiculously priced custom pistols? As others have stated, they equate to folks that own exclusive boats and cars. I cannot justify expenditures like those, but there are certainly many people that can. More power to them...it's their money to spend as they like.
 
I’m not in a high end financial position at all. I have been reducing the heard and when 3-5 guns sell, I’m not giving the money to the wife!!!! I buy something higher end and enjoy the craftsmanship they have done to them. The test target with the Manurhin MR73 in .32 long I have has the same accuracy as some of the .32 long target semi-autos, that’s impressive for a revolver. Can I shoot it that accurately, NO. There is a noticeable smaller group size at 50’ indoors offhand with the Manurhin/Korth then with a S&W revolver, for me. We have some shooters that would not show much difference in group size btwn both guns. Larry
 
Yeah they use a modified version of Walther’s falling block locking design. Extremely well made, but they were more of a curious project by Willi Korth. Never really meant for large production. Hence, they were being handbuilt for 15-20 years and less than 300 were made. That includes some fancy special editions.

The newer Korth PRS is actually a more serious shooter. They are still being produced on a limited basis, but I hear wait times are such that Korth stopped taking orders.

I’ve got this 6” model and I have a 5” coming from overseas at some point. It’s a roller delayed blowback design, very complex.


Now THAT's cool! Definitely not a Browning design. Does it take standard 1911 mags?

The price is honestly not that bad according to the Korth website. I'm sure the secondary market is driving the price higher though.
 
Now THAT's cool! Definitely not a Browning design. Does it take standard 1911 mags?

The price is honestly not that bad according to the Korth website. I'm sure the secondary market is driving the price higher though.

Korth hasn’t updated that price in over a decade. They aren’t even taking orders for the PRS. On GB, they generally sell $10-$15K. I’ve seen some go higher, depending on condition and the auction itself.

Yes, they take 1911 magazines
 
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