P-o-S M&P 22... suggestions on how to fix.

[mobilecommand]

Hello,

Just want to say i own 2x M&P 15-22s and and Jframe revolver so i am not trying to bash em to much but i am really disappointed.

I decided to offload my P22 and replace with with a M&P 22 since it has amazing reviews.

So like every 22 i own i always feed it CCI mini mags.

I wanted to throw 300 to 400 down range today to break it in.

Well i shot 90 rounds with 0 issues and i had a smile ear to ear.

I load up the last mag rack the silde and pull the trigger nothing.

drop the mag cycle slide and round ejects.

put mag back in, rack slide pull trigger nothing..

rinse and repeat with and nothing.

emptied mag, reloaded and nothing.

each time i cycle side round ejects,

Its almost like the gun is no longer charging anymore.

I field stripped the gun, re-assembled and still nothing.

i bought the gun 2 weeks ago, picked it up last week and shot it today.

so far this is a total dud and regret selling my P22 which i had 0 problems with.

if you guys got any idea on whats going on let me know. I know S&W will take care of it but the nice Ride on the Fedex truck likely on my dime is not all the appealing on a new factory gun with less then 100 rounds on it.

 

[Jyezahn]

Did you check any of the ejected rounds for a firing pin indention? Was the pistol cleaned prior to your range trip? When you field stripped it at the range, did you check to see if the firing pin area and extractor were clear of debris?

If you cannot get it working, call S&W. They'll send you a shipping label so it won't cost you a dime.

 

[mobilecommand]

I cleaned and inspected the gun prior to going to the range.

In hindsight i wish i grabbed a few of the casing..

when i stripped it at the range everything looked ok visually. I will break it down soon with more light and see if anything is visible.

 

[mobilecommand]

well i just stripped everything down.. was poking and prodding the making sure everything was moving etc..

re-assembled gun tried a dry fire and nothing "mag in gun".. racked the slide a few times with mag out then re-inserted, nothing.. racked slide again and it held open since the mag was in. then hit the slide stop button and the slide slammed forward, tried the trigger again and heard a click.. Did it a few more times and now its firing.. i will prob call S&W to see what they recommend, maybe this goes into the gun wont work right till you put 500+ rounds in it.. Still disappointed but hopefully this will be the end of it.

 

[robkarrob]

Per S&W FAQ:



Q: Can I dry fire my Smith & Wesson?

A: Yes, except for the .22 caliber pistols which includes models 22A, 22S, 422, 2206, 2214, 2213 and 41.

.22 caliber revolvers such as models 17, 43, 63, 317 and 617 also should not be dry fired.

Q: Why can't I dry fire my .22 pistol or revolver?

A: Dry firing a S&W .22 pistol or revolver will cause damage to the firing pin.



Doesn't specifically say M&P 22, but due to the way the firing pin works, I would think it would apply.

This doesn't help you with your problem, but it may be a reason that may have caused the problem with the firing pin. Send it back to S&W and have it checked out.

Bob

 

[mobilecommand]

I don't generally dry fire any of my 22s it was more of a test to see if i could even get it to fire which prior to me getting into the gun was not happening.

I have dry fired that gun a total of 5 times in troubleshooting since i did not want to go back to the range to dire a live round.

 

[shawn mccarver]

Hello,

Just want to say i own 2x M&P 15-22s and and Jframe revolver so i am not trying to bash em to much but i am really disappointed.

I decided to offload my P22 and replace with with a M&P 22 since it has amazing reviews.

So like every 22 i own i always feed it CCI mini mags.

I wanted to throw 300 to 400 down range today to break it in.

Well i shot 90 rounds with 0 issues and i had a smile ear to ear.

I load up the last mag rack the silde and pull the trigger nothing.

drop the mag cycle slide and round ejects.

put mag back in, rack slide pull trigger nothing..

rinse and repeat with and nothing.

emptied mag, reloaded and nothing.

each time i cycle side round ejects,

Its almost like the gun is no longer charging anymore.

I field stripped the gun, re-assembled and still nothing.

i bought the gun 2 weeks ago, picked it up last week and shot it today.

so far this is a total dud and regret selling my P22 which i had 0 problems with.

if you guys got any idea on whats going on let me know. I know S&W will take care of it but the nice Ride on the Fedex truck likely on my dime is not all the appealing on a new factory gun with less then 100 rounds on it.

Why do you think it would be on your dime? S&W should send you a prepaid shipping label under warranty.

 

[Lineman73]

Check at range again...

It sounds to me like you had something fouling your firing pin. When you dropped the slide from the slide stop it knocked whatever it was loose. I would recommend blowing out the firing pin with a good aerosol degreaser and then re-lubricating it. Then take it to the range and test fire. If it repeats the problem, then by all means, give it that Fedex ride with the S&W shipping label (call for shipping label)!

You can reach Smith & Wesson Customer Service at 1-800-331-0852 Mon-Fri 8:00AM-8:00PM Eastern Time. These folks are great. If you still have the problem, they will take care of you.

 

[GERMANSW]

Storing cocked M&P 22 Pistol

My M&P 22 pistol works great. But one of my dislikes is I prefer an external hammer pistol though because:
(1) If a round does not fire I can pull the hammer back and try it again.
(2) Anyway, S&W apparently says the pistol was designed to be able to be stored cocked as you cannot decock it without firing on an empty chamber, which is a no no with most 22's. I don't think storing it with a wound hammer spring is a good idea.....
So... When I get done fireing at the range, I pick up a couple of spent shells on the ground and when I am done cleaning the gun (which I do after every trip to the range), I put in a spent shell, and an empty magazine (the gun will not fire without it) and pull the trigger to release tha hammer on the spent shell. Then store the weapon.
When the gun was new, I had some failure to fire issues, Maybe because it was stored for a long time with the hammer cocked, so the spring was a little weaker? Don't know but that problem disappeared after I stored the weapon as noted above.

 

[agksimon]

Small drywall anchors (yellow) work great for dry firing and storing.

 

[spad124]

Small drywall anchors (yellow) work great for dry firing and storing.

Yep! I found the same idea on a rimfire forum. I use the blue anchors shaved down a bit to store my 3 .22LRs. The plastic cushions the firing pin and prevents it from peening the chamber or breaking.

 

[M&P Freak]

If you want to drop the hammer for storage purposes you can pull the slide back about 1/32" to 1/16" and pull the trigger. After making sure the gun is clear and pointed in a safe direction, of course.

This provides clearance between the firing pin and the breach face as not to damage anything and does not require something like a wall anchor in the chamber.

 

[Johnny Numbers]

If you need to ship the gun back to S&W, they will send you a prepaid shipping label. At that point, contact Fedex and they will come to your location and pick up the gun. The drivers usually have shipping boxes on their trucks, so no need for concern there. All you need is your label.

No need to worry about finding a Fedex location to ship from. It can all be done over the phone and you never need to leave your house.

 

[agksimon]

If you want to drop the hammer for storage purposes you can pull the slide back about 1/32" to 1/16" and pull the trigger. After making sure the gun is clear and pointed in a safe direction, of course.

This provides clearance between the firing pin and the breach face as not to damage anything and does not require something like a wall anchor in the chamber.

Great idea. Can't tell you how many times I unzipped my gun at the steel shoot line, loaded a magazine and couldn't chamber it, as the drywall plug was still in there. Not there anymore.

 

[pdq5oh]

Springs aren't damaged or worn out by being compressed. It's the cycling that wears them out. Leaving a pistol cocked is fine. Loading mags and leaving them is fine, too.

 

[bolewine]

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