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Is anyone else having this problem? This happens with every brand and its always the same belt loop. The only thing i can guess is its caused by my stiff belt. never had this problem before I started to carry, so its been going on for some time. its not the stitching coming loose but the fabric gets torn.
I carry at 3:30 or so IWB. They don't make denim like they used too.
 

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Unfortunately, I can’t figure out what your problem is, so I can’t help you.

You’ll get better answers if you state your problem. Making us guess does you no good.

Looks like you added a photo after l posted my reply.
 
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cracker57 said:
Is anyone else having this problem? This happens with every brand and its always the same belt loop. The only thing i can guess is its caused by my stiff belt. never had this problem before I started to carry, so its been going on for some time. its not the stitching coming loose but the fabric gets torn.
I carry at 3:30 or so IWB. They don't make denim like they used too.
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I know the exact problem you are addressing. I'm not sure what brand of pants you've got, but I've had this happen with a couple pair of cheap Walmart jeans I got for yard work. The denim material is much lighter weight than the material in my Wranglers and there are fewer belt loops to help distribute stress on the cheap jeans loops. Haven't bought jeans in a while, so maybe they're all made of less durable material.
 
Rpg said:
Unfortunately, I can’t figure out what your problem is, so I can’t help you.

You’ll get better answers if you state your problem. Making us guess does you no good.
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Forgot to attach the pic..fixed now
 
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They aren't jeans, but Carhartt washed duck work pants are still rugged, even the pockets. You can often find them on sale at places like Bass Pro or Cabellas.
 
I had 4 pairs of LEVI's 550's that all did that and they all had only 5 or 6 belt loops and they all were labelled as having been made in Egypt. The last 6 pairs have the standard 7 belt loops and I have not had the same issue. I cannot find the same tags indicating where the last ones were manufactured. I also carry at IWB at about 3:30.
 
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mckenney99 said:
I had 4 pairs of LEVI's 550's that all did that and they all had only 5 or 6 belt loops and they all were labelled as having been made in Egypt. The last 6 pairs have the standard 7 belt loops and I have not had the same issue. I cannot find the same tags indicating where the last ones were manufactured. I also carry at IWB at about 3:30.
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It looks like wrangler has 7 belt loops compared to 5 on other jeans. I will be giving them a try. The jeans pictured are Lee and Levi with5 belt loops.
Love this forum, I can find answers to just about anything.
Off to buy some wrangler's.
 
With years of wearing a gun belt with keepers, I have found that using keepers with my OWB holsters assist with this situation.
 
6518John said:
I try at all costs to avoid wearing pants, so I don’t have this problem.
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Kilt? (jk)

I stopped buying Levis years ago. Their quality as well as their politics really went south. MARS GEAR is made in the USA by and for shooters. I have 2 pair of duty pants and a denim. Wear great and have a lot of carry-friendly features. Good prices, too.
Ed
 
cracker57 said:
Is anyone else having this problem? This happens with every brand and its always the same belt loop. The only thing i can guess is its caused by my stiff belt. never had this problem before I started to carry, so its been going on for some time. its not the stitching coming loose but the fabric gets torn.
I carry at 3:30 or so IWB. They don't make denim like they used too.
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tough to tell without the holster and belt pictured? Any pants i use for iwb has a extra belt loop sewn on to keep the holster positioned where it is wanted.
 
My competition paddle holsters go over the belt and jeans and solve two problems: they spread the load and keep the holster from moving no matter how forcefully you draw.
I have a shoebox full of holsters that hang at one point on the belt, but I stopped using them.
 
Belt loops can be moved if the locations interfere with holster placement. Simple alteration that takes only a few minutes. Belt loops that are improperly sized for the gun belt can be changed out also.

Years ago as a cop working in plain clothes I always had my trousers set up that way. The material taken off when inseam length is fitted will make all the belt loops needed, positioned as you wish and sized for your belt.

Suit coats and sport coats received an insert of light canvas around the torso to protect the linings from sharp edges (hammer, rear sight) and keep from snagging.

Another advantage for me was the clothing costs and alterations for work use made everything a tax-deductible expense.

Think ahead and deal with it before it becomes a problem.
 
I have never had any belt loop ever come loose - from carrying a gun or not. LL Bean Double L Jeans are the only brand I've worn in 45 years. They are very comfortable, wear like iron, have huge front pockets for pocket carry and have very strong belt loops.

I suspect your belt might be too wide. The belts I use are Kramer Leather double thick Horsehide and they are 1 1/4" wide. More than enough for the guns I CCW.

Now that I live in a very warm climate, I wear cargo shorts a lot. Their belt loops are not nearly as strong as on my LL Bean jeans and I have had zero issues with them either.

Just out of curiosity, what gun and holster are you using?
 
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I have been carrying with a $30 Gun Belt, 1 1/2", steel lined at 4:00 o'clock for many years. I literally carry 24 hours a day! Since I retired from my Dept. I have worn jeans almost exclusively for more than 30 years and have never had an issue with the belt loops on my jeans as you picture. The jeans I buy exclusively are Wrangler.

Your loops appear to have come un-sewed, not the fabric itself tearing!

Since your last post says you will be trying Wranglers too I think you will find your problem has been solved.:D
 
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I'll echo what others have said, Wrangler. I usually purchase the Cowboy Cut Original fit and, for me at least, they last a good long time, not to mention I can actually get these in my size. My legs are still longer than the circumference of my waist...
 
chief38 said:
Just out of curiosity, what gun and holster are you using?
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Summer carry is S&W shield, cooler weather CZ PCR both in Milt Sparks VMII IWB. Belt is 1.5 inch I forget whos belt but a good gun belt.
 
Lee here for decades without a problem. But there’s a brand of cargo shorts I love because of the cellphone pocket, and their front right loop is in exactly the wrong place for AIWB. Thanks to Lobo I will now get that fixed!
 
cracker57 said:
Summer carry is S&W shield, cooler weather CZ PCR both in Milt Sparks VMII IWB. Belt is 1.5 inch I forget whos belt but a good gun belt.
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Well I think the issue is the 1 1/2" belt you are using. I'd go with 1 1/4" instead. I believe the 1 1/2" belt might be putting to much pressure and stress on the belt loops.
 
cracker57 said:
Is anyone else having this problem? This happens with every brand and its always the same belt loop. The only thing i can guess is its caused by my stiff belt. never had this problem before I started to carry, so its been going on for some time. its not the stitching coming loose but the fabric gets torn.
I carry at 3:30 or so IWB. They don't make denim like they used too.
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It’s the stitching, today’s jeans are designed for fashion vs durability. You can reinforce the stitching or use a belt that distributes the weight better.FYI, even before I carried my jeans broke in the same spot after a few years.
 
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Suit coats and sport coats received an insert of light canvas around the torso to protect the linings from sharp edges (hammer, rear sight) and keep from snagging.
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Very interesting. Back in the day, when I wore a suit daily (and we did not have a concealed handgun license/license to carry and who cared, right? :rolleyes:), I had the interior, left breast pocket of each coat removed and replaced with quality denim. I could drop a small pistol in there and not even notice it all day.
 
I used to have that problem, but because my butt didn't keep up with my belly I couldn't keep my pants up without suspenders.

Solution Bib coveralls. Comfy, extra pocket top pockets.

Problem is if I want to use any kind of holster other than a pocket holster
 
My jeans have done that all my life. It's from pulling them up when they sag. Probably for you carrying has accelerated the process.
 
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