Picked these up at a show today. Questions

[jdtenn]

Alliant, also owned by ATK, published 38 Spl +P data in the 2014 reloading guide and online for the 146gr jhp swc, was hoping Speer would produce them again when things calm down. Since they have dropped all the data for older powders and bullets could not figure out why they kept this one unless it could possibly return.

 

[Nevada Ed]

+1on at least medium spped with these type of bullets and
when you seat the bullets.................
NEVER try to take the load apart !! You will find the lead in the puller but the copper jacket still in the case !!
Once you load that bullet...... shoot it.

You will get around 935 fps with 5.5grs of Unique......
905 fps with Green Dot and 877 fps with Red Dot and if
you have Blue Dot 955 fps with a near maximum load, all
out of my 6" barrel with 38 special cases.

Those will hit around 1200 fps with a medium heavy load of powder in a 357 but they were so accurate in the 38, that
was where I kept them.

They are perfect for critters bigger than jack rabbits !!

Good shooting.

 

[Boogsawaste]

NEVER try to take the load apart !! You will find the lead in the puller but the copper jacket still in the case !!
Once you load that bullet...... shoot it.

Thanks. Never thought about it, but that would ruin a perfectly good bullet. Good to know! Thanks for the loading data too. I just loaded up all my wadcutters so now I'll have an excuse to change the seating die and stop being lazy and load these.

 

[Jaymo]

I'd load them in .357 Mag and in HOT .38 Spl.
Looks like a good candidate for THE LOAD.

 

[Rollis]

What ever you do keep the box, it will be a nice piece of history.

Personally I, would keep the bullet's also, but whatever you do remember to enjoy.

 

[gutterman]

How do these bullets compare to the old "FBI" load? I believe they were lead HP's too-were'nt they?

 

[Boogsawaste]

What ever you do keep the box, it will be a nice piece of history.

Personally I, would keep the bullet's also, but whatever you do remember to enjoy.

I'll definitely keep the box and think I'm going to keep a handful of the bullets too. Great suggestion!

I loaded up a couple strings of them for some range fun. I set OAL to 1.375ish, which seems short to me but the limited info I stumbled across seems to mirror that. Anyway, here's a pic of 5.0 unique. Yeah, maybe I need to add some lemishine to my wet tumbler.

 

[Boogsawaste]

How do these bullets compare to the old "FBI" load? I believe they were lead HP's too-were'nt they?

Not sure how they compare. The FBI load used 158 LSWCHP. These are similar except for the weight and the 3/4 or 1/2 or whatever it is jacket.

 

[Jaymo]

I'd use them in my 586, for deer.

 

[Troystat]

Have a hundred rounds of those loaded in 357 with a heavy charge of 296, they are very accurate loan in my model 27. To bad they don't make them anymore. Would love to find a box at that price

 

[Boogsawaste]

Shot them today and they worked great. Actually very accurate in my model 10. 5.0-5.2 of unique seemed to be about the best I came up with. Had some loaded a little more, but 5.0-5.2 worked for that gun.