Pit Bull's: misunderstood

[Andy Taylor]

quote:
Pitts are no more dangerous than any other breed dog.



Right, the media is just covering up all the deaths caused by labs and poodles.

The media doesn't report them.
True Story: My wife was on an ambulance crew. She was called to the scene of a dog mauling a young boy, about 4 years old. As she was treating the boy for some pretty serious injuries a TV news crew arrived. when they learned that the dog involved was a YELLOW LAB, thats right everbodys lovable Ol' Yeller, the reporter said, "Oh, it's not a Doberman. No story here." Pits, and to a lesser degree, Rotties, and Dobies get the short end of the stick. It is no different than saying that all (insert race here) people are evil.

 

[guntownuncle]

YOu guys should check out the following stats. You won't like them.

http://www.dogbitelaw.com/Dog%...202006%20Clifton.pdf

"The media doesn't report them.
True Story: My wife was on an ambulance crew. She was called to the scene of a dog mauling a young boy, about 4 years old. As she was treating the boy for some pretty serious injuries a TV news crew arrived. when they learned that the dog involved was a YELLOW LAB, thats right everbodys lovable Ol' Yeller, the reporter said, "Oh, it's not a Doberman. No story here." Pits, and to a lesser degree, Rotties, and Dobies get the short end of the stick. It is no different than saying that all (insert race here) people are evil."

I think in the case of maulings you may be right. I've heard the same arguments about deaths caused by dogs, and I don't believe that for a minute.

Here is a good compromise. If a dog kills someone, it is first determined if the death was justified (someone breaking into a house, etc.). If it is not justified and the owner can be determined by a court of law, then the owner has to go to prison for as long as the victim remains dead. If pitbulls are no more dangerous than any other breed, as you say, then that should be fair to everyone.

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[dlstewart01]

Originally posted by 7.62foryou:
guntownuncle
dlstewart01

See what I mean? Heads clearly stuck where the sun don't shine.

I may have my head stuck somewhere but I know what I am talking about. I started out thinking you were making sense but you have wandered off the deep end if you think you can't over time breed a dog with a bad temperment.

http://www.rejoycewhippets.com...mentandbreeding.html
http://www.trupitbull.com/Temperament.html

 

[7.62foryou]

Originally posted by dlstewart01:

Originally posted by 7.62foryou:
guntownuncle
dlstewart01

See what I mean? Heads clearly stuck where the sun don't shine.

I may have my head stuck somewhere but I know what I am talking about. I started out thinking you were making sense but you have wandered off the deep end if you think you can't over time breed a dog with a bad temperment.

http://www.rejoycewhippets.com...mentandbreeding.html
http://www.trupitbull.com/Temperament.html

That's excatly what I know. Temperments can't be bred. Strong jaws, big heads, long claws, short strong legs etc.... can ne bred. Temperments are a result of dog handling or in the sense your using it incorrect dog handling. Dogs can be made unbalanced by humans. Junks yard dogs are almost always unbalanced and perceived as agressive no matter the bred. Why do you think that is? The answer is in my posts. I read the links I think there wrong.

 

[7.62foryou]

Here is a good compromise. If a dog kills someone, it is first determined if the death was justified (someone breaking into a house, etc.). If it is not justified and the owner can be determined by a court of law, then the owner has to go to prison for as long as the victim remains dead. If pitbulls are no more dangerous than any other breed, as you say, then that should be fair to everyone.

I could live quite well with that. Maybe that's dog owner control law #1!

 

[BarbC]

Temperments are a result of dog handling or in the sense your using it incorrect dog handling.

I differ in my use of the terminology of "temperament". Temperament is inherited in the dog. It's handling and training that takes that temperament and molds it.

I know that a dog is born with a certain "temperament" or predisposition to behave a certain way under certain circumstances. If you temperament test a litter of puppies at six weeks, each one will have a different analysis. What you have at six weeks pretty much indicates the adult's natural temperament. Volhard & Fisher's Puppy Aptitude Test

So much for individual puppies within a litter. And litters from different adults within the same breed differ too. Select your breeding pair carefully for both physical and temperament characteristics.

Next you have breed characteristics. A Pekingnese isn't going to be much of a long-distance hunter. A dog bred true to the AKC/UKC standard will display certain characteristics that have deliberately been bred into a type of dog, both physiologically and temperamentally. This is not to say that some breeds are "better" or "worse" but they may have breed characteristics that are not suitable for the job you as owner require of a dog. So select your breed carefully.

Next is the training leg of the equation. The type of training you do depends on the breed characteristics and individual temperament. But they all need training to bring out the characteristics and temperament qualities you specifically selected the breed, the litter and the individual puppy for.

 

[bk43]

Originally posted by guntownuncle:
YOu guys should check out the following stats. You won't like them.

They are not "stats". It is a compilation of press reports that have little if any value. Your post actually proves the point Lucky Derby was making with his annecdotal story. The press over or under reports dog attacks based on breed. The more sensational a breed can make the story the more it gets coverage.

Bob

 

[guntownuncle]

Originally posted by bk43:

Originally posted by guntownuncle:
YOu guys should check out the following stats. You won't like them.

They are not "stats". It is a compilation of press reports that have little if any value. Your post actually proves the point Lucky Derby was making with his annecdotal story. The press over or under reports dog attacks based on breed. The more sensational a breed can make the story the more it gets coverage.

Bob

I might agree with you on dog bites. If you think the press doesn't think its newsworthy when a beagle kills someone, you are fooling yourself. Ignore the "attacks" column if you like, just check out the "deaths" column.

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[normanvin]

I saw a show on the animal planet earlier in the year. They said that a yellow lab is one of the top ten biters in America.

 

[gunsmith11]

that may be true, but i see a lot less yellow labs being walked down the street as a see pits,,,and come to think of it,,,there are more pits in the beds of pickups also, but there is also more mexicans with them