plated bullets and polygonal rifiling

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I know you aren't supposed to shoot cast lead in polygonal rifled barrels, but can you use plated Rainier type bullets.

I'm thinking of starting to reload 9mm and realized that three of my six 9mm handguns are polygonal rifled.

If I have to load FMJ for the three oddballs, it kind of defeats the financial reason to reload.

Any thoughts or experience would be appriciated.
 
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I know you aren't supposed to shoot cast lead in polygonal rifled barrels, but can you use plated Rainier type bullets.

I'm thinking of starting to reload 9mm and realized that three of my six 9mm handguns are polygonal rifled.

If I have to load FMJ for the three oddballs, it kind of defeats the financial reason to reload.

Any thoughts or experience would be appriciated.
 
My son and I will probably run thousands of plated rounds through our Glocks this year and have for the previous several years with no ill affect.

Not all plated bullets are equal. Berry's have thicker plating and might be a better choice for your application. I have used both though with good success.
 
Thanks for the insight.

I started using the Rainier bullets in the .45 years ago just because I had a $100 gift certificate for Cabela's to use when I lived in the Twin Cities.

I imagine Berry's are still cheaper than FMJ?
 
I've shot close to 5000 rounds of Berry's and Rainier Ballistics' through my HK45 without any problems. I've also shot Oregon Trails Laser Cast 50 per outing, and cleaned the gun afterwards. I'm trying to find out at what point I'll have problems, but can't trust the leading to stay away through a 150 round match. One thing I've noticed about the Rainier's is that they need the case belled a bit more, or they will skin the plating off. I never have that problem with Berry's.
 
Me too...lots of Berry's and Rainier bullets through my G21 and HK Tactical.

Never a problem.

Bob
 
I imagine Berry's are still cheaper than FMJ?
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Whenever I''ve compared the two I found plated to be considerably cheaper.
FYI last time I checked the cheapest Berry's were at the Berry's web site. Also offer free shipping on orders >1000 bullets.
Kevin
 
You may want to acquire “The Glock In Competition A Shooters How To Guide” (Expanded 2nd Edition). Page number 59 Plated Bullets. This should answer your question.

This book should be required reading for all owners/users of Glock pistols. The book separates fact from fiction.
 
Originally posted by dennis40x:
You may want to acquire “The Glock In Competition A Shooters How To Guide” (Expanded 2nd Edition). Page number 59 Plated Bullets. This should answer your question.

This book should be required reading for all owners/users of Glock pistols. The book separates fact from fiction.
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What does it say??
 
Originally posted by OCD1:
What does it say??
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The reply was purposely open ended. Not being impolite but either buy the book which is worth the read or contact the bullet manufacture.
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Originally posted by dennis40x:
Originally posted by OCD1:
What does it say??
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The reply was purposely open ended. Not being impolite but either buy the book which is worth the read or contact the bullet manufacture.
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Gee and I thought we were here to share information. I really do not need to buy a book on shooting a Glock in Competition because I don't.
Berrys specifically states that their bullets are fine in Glocks, just wondered if "your book" said something different. I have shot them in 9MM and 40 with a unsupported chamber
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I do not know about Rainers as I do not use them.
I'm sure if you read your Glock manual it probably says that reloads will void your warranty and are verboten so what's the point?
Maybe there would be further punishment for using plated bullets and reloads??
 
The Glock In Competition A Shooters How To Guide
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OCD,
It is copyrighted material, dennis is just being legal.

Here is a link though to part of a book on Glocks online. It is a preview version and it may not have the part we are discussing. If I don't want to buy a book, I look for them on this site and read what is available first. If I think it is something for the library, I buy it.

http://books.google.com/books?...t&resnum=1#PPA258,M1
 
Skip, thank you. It really is not that important anyway. Citing a phrase or statement while giving the source is not a copright infringment anyway.Kinda like saying "I know something or a secret but not gonna tell you.
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Using that logic, nothing should be discussed here in the forum as it is in a book somewhere.

Besides, the whole post is a violation, as it is about Glocks or other guns with poly rifling so it should be moved to Glock Talk or somewhere.They can solve all their problems and buy a Lone Wolf or similar drop in barrel and then shoot lead.

This is the S&W forum and I don't think even when Smith copied the Glock on the Sigma they used poly rifling.

Quote from the Berrys FAQ website:
"Yes. We have a large contingent of loyal Glock shooters using our bullets. The plating is thick enough that you will not get lead fouling in your bore, which is the nemesis of polygonal barrels"
 
Both my son and I both shoot berry's plated with no problems in our HK's. I read somewhere that the HK guns have a different throat configuration than the Glocks and that you can shoot cast bullets though them. I read this about two days before I got a new Jarvis conventional rifled barrel in the mail for my HK. Go figure.
 
The Glock polygon rifled barrels are optimized for usage with jacked bullets. With lead bullets there is a tearing/stripping of the material. Combined with heat/pressure there is a soldering effect with lead bullets which builds up increasing pressure which has the potential of being problematic.Yes there are people that use lead bullets and report no problems. As a general rule lead bullets are problematic.
 
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