Please advise. What do you think caused this failure?

[GrandpaTodd]

Bought a new SW .22 Magnum today and in my first outing had a failure that scared the you know what out of me and left me with a sore face. I think this was my 28th round fired. Not doing anything stupid, just target shooting. Please see pictures. Is this an ammo or a pistol problem? I haven't shot it since and don't plan to.

 

[s&wchad]

Out of battery discharge...
It looks like the bolt wasn't fully closed when the hammer dropped. Contact S&W.

 

[minconrevo]

Could be bad anneal on the brass. Also contact CCI. They will want pic's and also pic's of box with lot #. If CCI has a questionable lot out in circulation they will send you a shipping label so they can investigate further.

 

[.220swift]

As Grandpa stated; fired out of battery.
Before thinking firearm malfunction inspect for grundge in chamber,
ammo issues.
I actually had same issue with a 15-22 while grand daughter shooting.
First I cussed S&W as brand new firearm.Nobody hurt as all safety equipment was worn. I totally agree with the shock of it all.
The OOB round was WAYYY louder.I thought son was screwing around and him the inverse!!!After sitting on step{rancher} mussed about we decided to do some CSI. Checked chamber and bore all was fine.
Filled 10 round mag hung gun around very large rock and fired 5 slow 5 fast no problem.Next culprit ; ammo; that evening dug out reloading measuring tools.Had qualitve and Quanitive analysis in college.Turns out ammo had very serious quality issues.Issues of canted bullets out of round case heads etc. When anybody but me are shooting only ammo is CCI;brand used was from way south. In revolver or single shot will work fine in semi auto best find different brand. Only a couple per 100 but that's enough for your mentioned incident.Just food for thought.Rimfire ammo should be checked before shooting I use a go no go die on all centerfire and once in a blue moon I will have a reload out of spec it happens.Researching one for .22 now. Food for thought.

 

[AlHunt]

Seems like it was way out of battery. Let me be the old woman who says it - "don't forget to be sure the bullet didn't squib on you, too".

And don't forget to follow up with the resolution so future people can learn from this incident.

 

[Gman556]

As Grandpa stated; fired out of battery.
Before thinking firearm malfunction inspect for grundge in chamber,
ammo issues.
I actually had same issue with a 15-22 while grand daughter shooting.
First I cussed S&W as brand new firearm.Nobody hurt as all safety equipment was worn. I totally agree with the shock of it all.
The OOB round was WAYYY louder.I thought son was screwing around and him the inverse!!!After sitting on step{rancher} mussed about we decided to do some CSI. Checked chamber and bore all was fine.
Filled 10 round mag hung gun around very large rock and fired 5 slow 5 fast no problem.Next culprit ; ammo; that evening dug out reloading measuring tools.Had qualitve and Quanitive analysis in college.Turns out ammo had very serious quality issues.Issues of canted bullets out of round case heads etc. When anybody but me are shooting only ammo is CCI;brand used was from way south. In revolver or single shot will work fine in semi auto best find different brand. Only a couple per 100 but that's enough for your mentioned incident.Just food for thought.Rimfire ammo should be checked before shooting I use a go no go die on all centerfire and once in a blue moon I will have a reload out of spec it happens.Researching one for .22 now. Food for thought.

Holy word salad batman!

Can anyone translate this?

Seems like some decent advice, but I can't make anything of it.

 

[jb28]

As Grandpa stated; fired out of battery.
Before thinking the firearm malfunctioned, inspect it for grundge in chamber or ammo issues.
I actually had same issue with a 15-22 while my grand daughter was shooting.
First I cussed S&W. It was brand new firearm. Nobody was hurt, as all safety equipment was worn.
I totally agree with the shock of it all. The out of battery round was way louder !!!.
I thought son was screwing around and him the inverse!!! (I haven't a clue ).
After sitting on step{I'm rancher} we thought about what to do and decided to do some CSI. Checked the chamber and bore, all was fine.
Filled a 10 round mag and hung gun around a very large rock and fired 5 slow and 5 fast. No problem. Next possible problem was ammo. That evening I dug out my reloading measuring tools. I had some qualitve and Quanitive analysis in college. Turns out ammo had very serious quality issues. Canted bullets, out of round case heads etc. When anybody but me is shooting the only ammo used is CCI. In revolver or single shot it will work fine, but in semi auto it's best to find a different brand. usually only a couple issues per 100, but that's enough for your mentioned incident.
Just food for thought. Rimfire ammo should be checked before shooting. I use a go - no go die on all centerfire ammo. Once in a blue moon I will have a reload out of spec, it happens. Researching one for .22 now. Food for thought.

I got C's and C -'s in english, so take the rewrite with a grain of salt. LOL.

 

[THE PILGRIM]

So why did it fire out of Battery?

 

[schutz5]

I have experienced similar out of battery fire with 9mm reloads.
They were weak so the slide must have not fully slammed the round into chamber.

Gladly it was just one box and I got rid of it by single loading each mag.

 

[gunbarrel]

Yup, slam fire...

 

[TJm15.38]

I would be skeptical of any future use of that firearm without a qualified gunsmith evaluating it's function and performance.

 

[cmj8591]

It's not so much that the gun was out of battery, there are a thousand things that could cause that, most of which can be fixed by the shooter. The problem is that it FIRED out of battery. That means that a safety failed. I'm the first one to say that you should try to fix a gun before sending it in but that gun is unsafe and needs to go back to mother.

 

[WR Moore]

While it may be a mechanical issue with the firearm, this drives home the need to inspect EVERY round while loading it into the magazine. The checklist is shorter with a rimfire: is the bullet pointy end up, is the rim the same thickness all the way around and the same as other rounds?

We got centerfire ammo by the tractor trailer load. Over time we accumulated an interesting assortment of defective rounds. Bullets backward, primers sideways/upside down, bulges at the case mouth, no flash holes, no powder, revolver rounds with too thick/deformed case rims and the list goes on.

 

[shovelhead]

Lubed or fired out out of the box? If a case of removed from the Bo’s without lube, combined with a tight gun and rimfire grunge that could result in the hole being almost closed.

Friend had that happen with a Rossi .22WMR rifle, fired OOB. Closed enough to fire but not for the bolt to close. Again, new,gun and grunge.

 

[cmj8591]

The problem could have very well been caused by the ammo but had the gun been functioning properly, it would not have fired. The round was not completely in the chamber and the slide was not closed. The gun fired in that condition, therefore the gun's safety mechanisms failed.