Pledge of Allegiance

You have to make time for some things no matter how busy you may be. The pledge is one of them. As adults, we lead by example and the adults in this case are certainly setting a bad one. How can we show our kids the right path to take if we are lost?
 
srv1 said:
They still do the pledge of allegiance in schools? I thought for some reason many schools stopped doing that long ago. Maybe the parents wanted this and if that is the case then they have the right.

James
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I remember them trying to remove "Under God" from the pledge.

Maybe that didn't save them enough time so now they're going for the whole 10 seconds?

We all know how busy they are, With all this brainwashing and such.
 
I would tell President of the Board Morrison that you never end a sentence with a preposition. I'd also remind him that SOMEONE better know where all those kids are at any given time!
 
When one of my daughters graduated from high school and they stood up for the Pledge of Allegiance there were quite a few kids that never stood up. Two right in front of me. Unfortunately didn't relish the idea of spending the night in jail or longer. Really ticked me off. Frank
 
Don't know about you guys, but as for me, the public schools I attended in the 60s and early 70s for junior high and high school did not provide for saying the Pledge daily. This wasn't a matter of a school board policy, just "the way it was." We did it in elementary school, but not beyond that.

Somehow, the Republic survived anyway.
 
Its all a reflection of political correctness, an outgrowth of the concept that being non-judgmental is a enlightened state. A few generations of Americans have been raised to believe that no one set of beliefs or culture is superior to another, so outward demonstrations of reverence for this country is frowned upon (after all, there might be some present who have greater loyalty to another culture or country and no right minded progressive would want that person to feel uncomfortable). I wonder how many classrooms today do not even have an American flag at the front of the room. I read awhile ago about some border Texas schools that give the flag of Mexico equal standing with the U.S. flag.

As recently as when I was in elementary school (which is not really recent, I am talking the late '40's and early '50's) everything was taught in English. If a non-English child was present they did the best they could, received extra help from the teacher, and before very long were joining the discussions, in English. We now foster the balkanization of the country by operating schools in children's "native" language. I understand that the L.A. school district operates with 132 different languages in the curriculum. Why should we be surprised that pride in America and the traditions that made us great should no longer be in favor when we openly teach children that every culture is equal and Americanism, and the English language are not only not special, they are the source of many of the world's problems?

I also used to be a Rotarian, and every weekly meeting would begin with the recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance, followed by a patriotic song. Even then I was surprised by how many fellow Rotarians did NOT know the words to the Pledge or what I considered the most common of patriotic songs (God Bless America, My County Tis of Thee, etc.).

It may not yet be too late to save America, but at best we are close to the point of no return.
 
Nothing new. I graduated in 98 and the last time I remember saying the pledge was 3rd grade. In fact I was actually picked to do it for one week, over the laud speaker.

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We recited the Pledge of Allegiance in elementary school, but not in high school. Can't say that as a grade school kid I really understood what the words meant... more interested in the pretty girl next to me or how long it would be till recess. As an adult I can't say that I recite the Pledge of Allegiance much.

Over the years it has changed in both words and style. The Bellamy salute was until about the time of WWII. I guess the salute kinda looked like a bunch of Jr Nazis.

I think kids should recite the Pledge of Allegiance in school if for no other reason than on general principle. Anyone who says there is no time for it isn't being honest. They have an agenda or problem with it.
 
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DeathGrip said:
I remember them trying to remove "Under God" from the pledge.

Maybe that didn't save them enough time so now they're going for the whole 10 seconds?

We all know how busy they are, With all this brainwashing and such.
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I remember my mom telling stories of my older sisters learning the "pledge" in school. They were practicing their recitation with mom after school and it was different than when my mom learned it. When my mom and dad (and grand parents) learned the pledge, there was no "under God" phrase in the pledge. At first, mom thought their teacher had added the phrase for some reason, but that wasn't the case.

My parents learned the pledge as children during WWII. My sisters learned the pledge in the late 50's. The "under God" clause was added in the early 50's as a knee-jerk response to the communist threat. Given many communists philosophers had a negative view of organized religion, the knee-jerk US legislators of the day wanted to further show our difference from communism/socialism (as if more were needed) and inserted "under God" into the pledge. No one at the time would dare resist anything that was proposed as "anti-commie" so it passed with little fanfare or debate.

I wouldn't have any problem going back to the original pledge. If it was good enough for the "Greatest Generation" and good enough for my parents, it is good enough for me.

Since there is no external "godless commie threat," to what the purpose does "under God" serve other than ostracize non-Christian Americans as somehow less American? "One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all" is more than adequate. If our pledge is limited to only those who believe in organized Christian religion's concept of God, it isn't one nation for all - but only for those who that share a certain belief system.

I welcome the unwavering devotion and allegiance to our nation from any American, regardless of religion.
 
How much of their decision is based on being PC? Search for Red Skelton's video on the pledge of allegiance; I guess we are where he hoped we wouldn't get.
 
Pasifikawv said:
I remember my mom telling stories of my older sisters learning the "pledge" in school. They were practicing their recitation with mom after school and it was different than when my mom learned it. When my mom and dad (and grand parents) learned the pledge, there was no "under God" phrase in the pledge. At first, mom thought their teacher had added the phrase for some reason, but that wasn't the case.

My parents learned the pledge as children during WWII. My sisters learned the pledge in the late 50's. The "under God" clause was added in the early 50's as a knee-jerk response to the communist threat. Given many communists philosophers had a negative view of organized religion, the knee-jerk US legislators of the day wanted to further show our difference from communism/socialism (as if more were needed) and inserted "under God" into the pledge. No one at the time would dare resist anything that was proposed as "anti-commie" so it passed with little fanfare or debate.

I wouldn't have any problem going back to the original pledge. If it was good enough for the "Greatest Generation" and good enough for my parents, it is good enough for me.

Since there is no external "godless commie threat," to what the purpose does "under God" serve other than ostracize non-Christian Americans as somehow less American? "One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all" is more than adequate. If our pledge is limited to only those who believe in organized Christian religion's concept of God, it isn't one nation for all - but only for those who that share a certain belief system.

I welcome the unwavering devotion and allegiance to our nation from any American, regardless of religion.
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At the risk of breaking both the "no religion or politics" rules in one thread , I fully agree. Some of the most loyal and patriotic Americans I know , many of whom are Vets , are Atheists , Agnostics , Buddists , Pagans , Wiccans and other not so acceptable faiths.
 
Both my boys (8 & 6) still say it in school every day. We also say it at every Cub Scout Den and Pack meeting before anything else happens. I certainly hope it doesn't change here.
 
Nobody seems to want to be just an American these days. They all claim to be what I refer to as a "hyphen-American". No matter if they're an immigrant themselves , or first/second/third generation.

I know one person who will tell anyone who listens that he's not just an Italian , he's a Sicilian!:rolleyes:

He was born here.:confused:

Both his parents were born here.:confused:

Grandparents probably were born there.

I enjoy rattling his cage by remindiung him the not only was he NOT born in Sicily , he's never even been there!

I also love telling him that I've been to Sicily on several occasions , and for extended periods of time. I tell him "I'm more Sicillian than you , and I'm Polish!":p

Well , of Polish descent! ;)
 
They must still be doing it around here, i walked out of a local Kroger not too long ago and seen two little black girls stop at the flag outside, and proudly put their hands over their hearts, and started the pledge. It was the cutest thing I had seen all day.
 
mkk41 said:
Nobody seems to want to be just an American these days. They all claim to be what I refer to as a "hyphen-American". No matter if they're an immigrant themselves , or first/second/third generation.

I know one person who will tell anyone who listens that he's not just an Italian , he's a Sicilian!:rolleyes:

He was born here.:confused:

Both his parents were born here.:confused:

Grandparents probably were born there.

I enjoy rattling his cage by remindiung him the not only was he NOT born in Sicily , he's never even been there!

I also love telling him that I've been to Sicily on several occasions , and for extended periods of time. I tell him "I'm more Sicillian than you , and I'm Polish!":p

Well , of Polish descent! ;)
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Both my boys are adopted - one is half Filipino/Hispanic the other is Korean. People still ask me "what are they" and I reply "American" - causes from funny looks. :)
 
These days , I see more people flying the flag of the country they came from. :rolleyes:


I like the words of Teddy Roosevelt,

"If it were up to me , I'd drive every foreign flag from the continent by bayonet point!"
 
Pasifikawv said:
I remember my mom telling stories of my older sisters learning the "pledge" in school. They were practicing their recitation with mom after school and it was different than when my mom learned it. When my mom and dad (and grand parents) learned the pledge, there was no "under God" phrase in the pledge. At first, mom thought their teacher had added the phrase for some reason, but that wasn't the case.

My parents learned the pledge as children during WWII. My sisters learned the pledge in the late 50's. The "under God" clause was added in the early 50's as a knee-jerk response to the communist threat. Given many communists philosophers had a negative view of organized religion, the knee-jerk US legislators of the day wanted to further show our difference from communism/socialism (as if more were needed) and inserted "under God" into the pledge. No one at the time would dare resist anything that was proposed as "anti-commie" so it passed with little fanfare or debate.

I wouldn't have any problem going back to the original pledge. If it was good enough for the "Greatest Generation" and good enough for my parents, it is good enough for me.

Since there is no external "godless commie threat," to what the purpose does "under God" serve other than ostracize non-Christian Americans as somehow less American? "One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all" is more than adequate. If our pledge is limited to only those who believe in organized Christian religion's concept of God, it isn't one nation for all - but only for those who that share a certain belief system.

I welcome the unwavering devotion and allegiance to our nation from any American, regardless of religion.
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Thanks for the education. I learn something here everyday. :):):)
 
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