In Georgia, you don't have to tell. If I stop you for a traffic violation, I assume that you are armed. It doesn't bother me if you are because I am too. Just keep both hands in plain sight, speak politely and move kinda slow, and it all works out well. I like the driver to tell me if I have him/her get out of the car for any reason, if he/she is carrying on their body...just keeps my blood pressure normal. From a libertarian view, it ain't any of my business. Rookies get kind of silly about it, but there is no good way to tell a veteran cop from a rookie one.
Police traffic stop while carrying
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Steve M., I commend you! All LEOs could learn a lesson from you, not just about freedom, but about survival.
However, there is one way to tell a rookie from a veteran: When arriving at a hot call, a rookie will lock up his brakes at about 120 mph and slide to a stop, exiting his cruiser before it stops, gun drawn. A veteran will roll up slowly and quietly, stop, and look 360 degrees before opening the car door.
However, there is one way to tell a rookie from a veteran: When arriving at a hot call, a rookie will lock up his brakes at about 120 mph and slide to a stop, exiting his cruiser before it stops, gun drawn. A veteran will roll up slowly and quietly, stop, and look 360 degrees before opening the car door.
Damn Yankee
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What do you Leo's do when you are stopped. Show the officer your commission with your Dl?
safearm
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I'm a retired LEO; my agency ID card says retired on the front of it and my badge says retired on it. I carry both in my wallet along with my driver's license and firearms permit (Mississippi's CC permit). Many agencies in this state conduct roadside safety checks, i.e., roadblocks. I have my DL and proof of insurance (mandatory for all drivers), along with my retired badge and ID out when the officer/deputy/trooper approaches the car. I've never had to produce my firearms permit, even though it has the same number as my DL.
Technically, under the LEOSA, I don't need a firearms permit to carry, but since I get it at no cost as a retired LEO, it doesn't hurt to have it if I don't want to reveal my status as a retired LEO. Also under Mississippi law, a person over 18 who is not otherwise prohibited from possessing a firearm, may carry a firearm in their vehicle as if it was their home or business. So any person, driving on the highways of Mississippi, not just a Mississippi resident, who gets stopped at a roadblock, may legally have a fiream in their vehicle with no requirement to produce a firearms permit.
Technically, under the LEOSA, I don't need a firearms permit to carry, but since I get it at no cost as a retired LEO, it doesn't hurt to have it if I don't want to reveal my status as a retired LEO. Also under Mississippi law, a person over 18 who is not otherwise prohibited from possessing a firearm, may carry a firearm in their vehicle as if it was their home or business. So any person, driving on the highways of Mississippi, not just a Mississippi resident, who gets stopped at a roadblock, may legally have a fiream in their vehicle with no requirement to produce a firearms permit.
If I get stopped, I don't usually say anything. I'm usually in uniform, either going to/from precinct or an extra job, so it doesn't come up. I have been lectured before, and i take it in stride. I have been on the job 24 years (a street sergeant the last 9), so that lends a certain perspective. I had a buddy tell me that when I protect a perp's rights, I am protecting mine and yours, too. I am nowhere close to being burned out...I have just learned to appreciate the power that I have. Just can't run rampant with it.
I was told by my instuctor that if stopped, hand over my license and permit at the same time. That way to cop knows right from the get-go that I'm one of the good guys and not a bad guy. I don't see any reason not to tell the officer.
Am I missing something?
Am I missing something?
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You are not missing a thing. It makes common sense everywhere and is in fact the law most places. Most LEO's recognize a permit holder as a (at least potential), good guy. It won't get you out of a ticket you deserve but disclosure sure won't hurt your cause.
devildog66
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In fact, you may be missing something very important. That little phrase, "...and that anything the person says may be used against that person in court.". Handing over a document can be the equivalent to making an oral statement. Is that the instructor's opinion or is he citing the law of the state in which you live? Did he reference or cite which code for this advice? Again, opinions of we'uns (mine certainly included) mean doodly squat. It is up to each CCW holder to be INTIMATE not just familiar with the laws that regulate the CCW permit of the respective jurisdiction in which the CCW permit is issued. For example, does the state have a preemption clause over local codes? What is the legal definition of, "... an establishment that serves alcohol"? When traveling in states with reciprocity, knowing the vagaries of the various states' codes can be a real pain but not in comparison to a night in the pokie and the cost getting out of the same.
Do not depend on the opinion of even your buddy the local police precinct sergeant for the answers to these questions. Find your state's legal code and read the thing and be sure to understand it as fully as possible. Consult with the state's/commonwealth's attorney office, your state's version of Virginia Citizen's Defense League (VCDL) for answers as well.
Know your rights and the law under which your CCW is granted.
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