Poll, Submachineguns

[Rick_A]

MP5K.

 

[jimmyj]

Back in "The Day" i owned three SMGs:
1. German MP-38 9mm
2. American M-3 "Grease Gun" .45acp
3. Winchester .30cal M-2 Carbine

Surplus cheap ammo allowed for lots of practice.
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1. MP-38 9mm was the fast firing (32rd magazine)
2. M-3 Grease Gun was slow firing and "Neat"
3. M-2 Carbine was the fastest firing--with a 15 round magazine, pull the trigger and the 15 round magazine would be empty before the first empty case struck the ground !

 

[NYlakesider]

Without a doubt if I could legally own a machine gun it would be a Thompson. Not sure of what model but it would be a nice one. I have legally shot Thompsons a few times and the gun fits me quite well. I realize between the gun costs and registration paperwork it will be expensive but, as Larry says '' I will geter done".

I have legally fired a few other buzz guns but the Thompson is my favorite (A coupe MPs, a Uzi, a older M16 that was not limited to 3 round bursts, M1 carbine.

(I live in the people's republic of NY, so unless I move to a free state I will never own one)

 

[Old Corp]

It's tough feeding those toys.

Guess I'm sorta fortunate. The LGS/Range that I work p/t at has rental SMG's.
Sometimes, when it gets slow, I'll take either the Colt M16 9mm CAR, HK MP5 9mm, Uzi 9mm or Glock 18 out on the range and rip a few magazines through one or another.
Helps with boredom.

 

[03hemi]

Here's my Tommy Gun that was about a year long process in completing with the tax stamp (9 mos). I custom fitted an 1800s wood violin case to carry it in, what else, right? It's an M1 version, but I like the verticle foregrip on the front, but I have both so I can swap them out. I refinished all the furniture to match and to have a high gloss. Typically, none of the wood on these guns is the same color.

 

[Arik]

Any of the above but, I also like:

And:

And:

This. The PPSH

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[WuzzFuzz]

I think it would be fun to have a Gatling gun. It might be big, but it sure would be fun to turn the crank. Hearing the gun spit out bullets one after another, slow enough to hear each shot, but faster than a pulling a trigger in a semi-auto type of a gun...

Next on my list, might be a old Lewis, or Maxim..Might be slow, but they are machine guns. (Then I'd have something to shoot down the Red Barron)


I don't think I'd turn down a Browning BAR either. Now that's got some Pizazz.



WuzzFuzz

 

[thebeamanater107]

The semi auto Thompson guns go for $1,500 here. I'm going to buy one this year. I saved up a whole bunch to buy one but then I didn't think I could afford it, so I bought a 1911 and a 22 instead. After I was done for the weekend, I counted up the money I had and spent to find I actually could afford that tommy gun. I wanted the gangster style, with the drum magazines. Not the military one that only accepted the stick magazines.

the original point and click interface, by Smith and Wesson

 

[03hemi]

Nice thing about a gatlin gun, other than the price, is there is no federal tax stamp to own one. All the shots are fired individually, just real fast. I read somewhere (gun mag) that Colt was actually considering/comming out with one for new production, I bet it will be pricey though.

 

[WuzzFuzz]

Nice thing about a gatlin gun, other than the price, is there is no federal tax stamp to own one. All the shots are fired individually, just real fast. I read somewhere (gun mag) that Colt was actually considering/comming out with one for new production, I bet it will be pricey though.

I don't remember where I read it, and not very long ago, someplace in Oklahoma was selling them....Repo's...but still, that would be a kick in the pants....

Along the same lines, I don't remember where I saw it, was a smaller Gatling, but it shot .22's...Now that would be a fun shooter..

WuzzFuzz

 

[03hemi]

Around here your looking at about 2k just for the gun, then there's the tax stamp if it's a short barrel and I heard, but not sure, the stamp is going up to $300.(?) Mine was $200. Then there's the price of the drums... It just keeps adding up, but well worth it. Go for it, it's only money and you can't take it with you.

 

[wbraswell]

I would want the Thompson M1or M1A1. I don't care about the drum mags or the vertical fore-grip, and I like the bolt handle on the side. Since the OP mentioned the big guns, I'd like a Lewis gun. I like the slow rate of fire. I could shoot it about 3 times longer than an MG42, using the same amount of ammo. One of those full auto AK types with the long barrel and bipod, look like fun, too. Oh, I almost forgot the 1917 Browning water-cooled trainer in .22LR. I could create a real shortage of 22 ammo with one of those.

 

[Tam 3]

M3A1 because I could hit with it at 90 meters.
Thompson is too heavy, as has been mentioned. You spend much more time carrying one than shooting. The rest are either not familiar to me or are not machine pistols.

Regards,

Tam 3

 

[Engineer1911]

I owned a 1973 model Auto Ordnance semi-auto Thompson. 11# of pure fun. The 30 round stick amgs took some time to run dry, but the 50 round drum was awesome. You kept firing so recoil carried some of the guns weight. A game warden is now the proud owner, and I'm $2500 less poor. Kahr guns are ~$1000 to $1500 but are not Auto Ordnance!.

Firing a full auto Thompson is only a dream!!!!

 

[WuzzFuzz]

Another that hasn't been mentioned would be the Lugar or the Broomhandle in full auto.

I just like different things....

WuzzFuzz

 

[Gunslinger808]

Right now I have 3 sub guns.
Two MP-5s in 9mm and One in .40.
Here's the .40 getting put through the paces.

 

[Old Corp]

One of our regulars at the range is a soon-to-retire FBI Agent. He occasionally brings in his issued MP5 in 10mm, and has let me shoot it (free ammo!).
It's a blast!

 

[LoboGunLeather]

While on casual status at Fort Benning between jump school and pathfinder school I was detailed to the post armory and spent a few weeks detail stripping and cleaning Thompsons, as well as M1911A-1 pistols and M60 machineguns. Got so familiar with those that I could still probably service any of them in the dark to this day.

During my service in Vietnam I had the opportunity to handle and use several vintage pieces. M1 Thompson (WW2 manufacture, probably part of our aid to Uncle Ho while his forces were battling the Japanese), Swedish K-model Carl Gustav (probably brought in by US Special Forces), Chinese version of the PPSH. I once saw a Belgian Browning Hi Power with factory selector switch. Some US tank crews were armed with the old M3 .45 caliber submachineguns, which were generally considered to be junk, but I found them to be 100% reliable although limited to very short ranges for any accuracy to be had.

Left the Army and went on the police department. In the armory we had 6 Thompson M1928's, all Colt manufacture, that had been there since before WW2. Sequentially numbered guns, so I assume purchased from the factory. Being the only one there who had ever actually used the Thompson, I was assigned to strip, inspect, test-fire and clean them. All the ammo on hand was WW1 surplus (headstamped 1918, in 20-round boxes with cloth tear strip) and WW2 surplus (steel cased, 1944 headstamps). I probably burned up a fortune in collector-grade ammo doing the test firing. During the latter 1970's the Thompsons were traded in on Colt M16's (I think the department got $600 each in trade allowance).

Served a few months on a joint narcotics task force that was equipped with Ingram MAC-10's. Extremely effective pieces, especially with the suppressor mounted.

Also during the late 1970's I had a friend needing to raise some cash for a business deal, and bought his M1 Thompson for $550. My first experience with the Treasury's registration process and I remember being surprised when the papers came back with an actual $200 stamp pasted on (took about 30 days to get the paperwork back in those days).

During the early 1980's S&W had a contract overrun sale on their M76 9mm subguns, picked one up on a letterhead purchase for $600 complete with soft case and 6 magazines. The M76 was remarkably similar to the Carl Gustav K-model, and I think there was a little copying done there.

About the same time Colt was offering M16A1's on department purchase orders for about $600 each.

Knew an officer in another department who purchased one of the .22 caliber SMG's, used a drum magazine that held (as I recall) 177 rounds of .22LR. Full auto with one of the earliest laser sights on the market. Name brand and model designation escapes me now, but as I recall these were marketed primarily for prison use, very accurate and controlled fire with small caliber ammo at medium ranges.

The late 1980's brought a sales rep to my office pushing H&K MP5D Navy Models (suppressed, contract overruns from their sales to the US Navy). I recall that the law enforcement agency price at the time was about $500 or $550 NIB with full warranty. Several agencies sent people out to the range for demonstration firing (impressive guns). I had no budget for such toys so I had to pass (after spending an afternoon burning up the free ammo).

About 1990 to 1992 Century International Arms was selling (to law enforcement agencies only) a bunch of used M1 Thompsons for $250 each, Swedish K "Port Said" models for $200 each, and M3 greaseguns were available for around $150 apiece. At the same time the US Department of Defense was authorized to send M1911A-1's, M16's, and M14's to police departments on indefinite loans at no cost (tempting, but I never took them up on it).

So, I have a little bit of experience with a fairly broad selection. Hard to make a definitive choice for only one. For pure "sexy" and historic value the 1928 Thompson wins hands down. For absolute functionality and "best for purpose" choice the H&K would probably get the nod.

I find it interesting to note that about the only real difference the ban on registering newly manufactured NFA guns made was to drive the prices of pre-ban pieces up into the "new car" price range, when prior to the ban they were just about all under a thousand bucks, and relatively available subject to federal and state laws.

 

[mg357]

B.A.R. With a special mount so I can mount it on my wheelchair.

 

[Eaglestroker]

If I were to ever pay for a FA, it would be a BAR. A good friend has one of the side folder MP5's with a QD suppressor and it would be my pick for an SMG. Amazing how much fun it is!