Poor Quaity with NEW Model 27 Classic

To me the new S&W revolvers are for shooting, not collecting. If it were me I would shoot the mess out of that gun and tote it around in a holster every chance I got. But I'm really no "never shoot it" kind of collector, so there is that.

If you care about how it looks a little over how it performs then you probably know what you have to do. One of the things I have found over time when it comes to guns is initial concerns don't age well in the years to come.
 
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Yep, that gun sure has had a rough 2 weeks since it was shipped. If you paid a premium price for it, I'd send it back just on principle. Other factors may influence your decision.
 
The turn line is a factory feature. Discussed on this forum many times over the years, but some folks are new and others need a refresher.

If the revolver is properly assembled with correctly fitting parts and function-checked as it is supposed to be through the process, the revolver will leave the factory with a turn line.

Depending on fit -- which can vary slightly even in the age of CNC and MIM -- the turn line will be greater or lesser. But it will be there and the presence of it on a new firearm does not necessarily indicate anything untoward happened at or after the factory.

Suggest a forum search: there's a delightful official letter from S&W to a concerned customer explaining the turn line as part of the design...written in the 1930s. The design hasn't substantially changed since.

If you're looking at a new S&W revolver and it truly has zero turn line (look closely, sometimes they're very faint, especially on stainless), suspect an undisclosed refinish or a poorly fit cylinder stop.

This can be confusing to some folk because the Colt design does allow, when very specifically fit and tuned, for the action to work without producing a turn line. This is not the case with S&W.

As to the front end of the barrel, perhaps it's the pic or my screen, but looking closely I see only faintly some uneven bluing -- not uncommon, now or in the old days. I'm not seeing anything that clearly appears to be marring or damage, but nothing replaces having the piece in hand for inspection.

See colt_saa's excellent post on what to expect of factory bluing these days. It is what it is. If you decide to hold on to the revolver, don't use Flitz or any other abrasive to try to improve the finish; you might get a little shine, it might diminish the most superficial of marks, but it will do these things by removing some of the bluing, is not likely to produce the results you want and might take you in the opposite direction. On stainless it can help, not really on blue.

All that said, provided the revolver in question passes mechanical inspection, I don't see an actual problem here. The torn wax paper can mean anything, but likeliest is it got snagged on the revolver and shoved around in transit; I don't think the condition of the wax paper matters, or is de facto indicative of anything, but to each their own.

OP, obviously it's up to you and you need to feel right about your purchase, but nothing presented thus far says to me this is a problem gun.

I looked at all the "new" blued Smiths on GB. They all had a turn line, even rimfires. Some were old, advertised as new, and looked new. Some were new, and looked used. I would keep it. I hate looking on GB, now I want to buy something.
 
The significant turn line is either a sign of lots of dry firing or a sharp edge on the cylinder stop.

The wear on the finish near the muzzle is an indicator of improper shipping protection or improper handling, either in the factory or by a person or persons in the store.

If I am buying a brand new firearm, I do not want to see wear on the finish or damage. The turn line is of less significance, but the finish wear on the barrel would either be unacceptable or grounds for a negotiation in price.
 
Folks - I am pleased to have the opportunity to participate in this forum. Though I don't post frequently, when I have had a question, I have received kind thoughtful responses which have helped me greatly!

Thank you all for responding in such a timely fashion, greatly appreciated!

Wishing you all a safe and healthy Holiday Season!
 
The factory never throws anything out, so the blue boxes from the '90s must still be made or in stock. :)

I agree with the above poster, if what you see bothers you now (and the seller is willing to take it back) I'd say return it and request a replacement. The next one will almost certainly have the turn line but hopefully the finish will be better.
 
Folks - I am pleased to have the opportunity to participate in this forum. Though I don't post frequently, when I have had a question, I have received kind thoughtful responses which have helped me greatly!

Thank you all for responding in such a timely fashion, greatly appreciated!

Wishing you all a safe and healthy Holiday Season!
Wait ! Are you keeping the gun or sending it back ...
You can't just leave us hanging ...
...We Gots To Know !!!!!
Gary
 
It looks to me like the best avenue for buyers of the new revolver would be to order nickel finish. That process apparently hasn't changed much, and continues to be more durable than the blue finish. I've never been a big fan of nickel but if I were going to buy a new carbon steel gun, I'd have to look real close at the nickel version.
 
Wait ! Are you keeping the gun or sending it back ...
You can't just leave us hanging ...
...We Gots To Know !!!!!
Gary

Thanks Gary!
Considering all colleague responses; the fact that this revolver WILL be shot and not a "Safe Queen"; understanding that the turn line (to varying degrees) is normal from the factory; after further inspection at the FFL, some (not all) of the finish blemishes are confirmed to be foreign material; and the time of acquiring a replacement is clearly undefined... I have decided to keep this revolver.
Again - Thanks to all for helping me to make an informed decision!
 
Good to hear.

I have to agree with Hapworth's assessment and the thoughts of several others here. I've had a few newer S&Ws, even a couple uncommon ones, but none were/are 'safe queens.' If it's a shooter, it's going to get that turn line in a hurry anyway. There's little point in quibbling over these aspects on a mechanical tool that gets used, as long as they are not defects.

Perhaps this philosophy would explain why I primarily buy gently used cars, gently used houses, and the fact my wife and I are both on second marriages ;)
 
Thanks Gary!
Considering all colleague responses; the fact that this revolver WILL be shot and not a "Safe Queen"; understanding that the turn line (to varying degrees) is normal from the factory; after further inspection at the FFL, some (not all) of the finish blemishes are confirmed to be foreign material; and the time of acquiring a replacement is clearly undefined... I have decided to keep this revolver.
Again - Thanks to all for helping me to make an informed decision!
It's important you're satisfied in your purchase, but I think as long as it's mechanically solid, this is a fine choice and you're likely to be happy.

In case you need a refresher on mechanical checks for a S&W revolver, search a bit here on the forum, there are good threads discussing.

Be safe, have fun and good luck. ;)
 
I think you made the right choice. It's a new production gun, so it won't have the beautiful finish of the old 27's. The turn ring is normal. Defects in the finish is not, but I would accept it and then deal with S&W on that. If they have you send it in; they will probably fix it. It cost you nothing to check with them and see. They will probably send you a new sheet or three of vapor wrap if you ask.
 
What is the cost of something like this? Are there any markings on the right side of the barrel? The revolvers blue looks about as good as some of the mid '80s guns. I kinda like it.
 
The turn line on that gun indicates everything is fitted properly.You could get a replacement gun without a turn line that develops an unsightly one after firing it.Something to consider if you plan on shooting it.
 
I no make a da pizza I just deliver. Poor quality call a my boss a he makes a da pizza.

We just don't know who to trust today. Dealers selling on line? Drive through fast food? Car salesmen.?
 
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