Poser neighbor

[dcxplant]

They struck down the 2005 version of the law, saying that lying is protected speech

A Congressman from NV, Joe Heck, sponsored a rewritten version that narrowed down the language, and Obama signed it into law this past summer.

H.R.258 - 113th Congress (2013-2014): Stolen Valor Act of 2013 | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

I thought the "Supreme" Court shot down that law in 2013?

 

[model70hunter]

We found out later he was never in the service.

Why do they tell these stories or lie?

Oh they wanted to be there, they really did. They just never got around to joining, doing Basic/Boot nor putting their life on the line.

I was never in combat, my Dad did WW 2, my son the Marine freed Kuwait, my cousin Mike, may he rest in peace, was an AF Medic. His chopper was shot down when they went in to extract a pilot, he was shot full of holes while shooting back with his 1911. He survived.

He only told one cousin who served in the Navy and who he was lifelong friends with. The cousin told Mike's brother and the other cousins the story. Mike was a lifer in the AF, he retired with memories and scars.

The ones I mentioned above don't or did not talk about it. My son told me some but not all, enough to know his Corp rifleman training works to the suprise and bitter end for some.

Dad and I were much closer later in life. I felt he told me about his experiences when I asked so someone would know his story. At some point after Dad's funeral my siblings asked about Dad's service. They were shocked to find out I knew.

As an LE I have been in a few sticky situations, sometimes a wanna be ends up, for a while, being an officer of the law. Let me tell you that the wanna be's, the I was at the drug bust gun fest, liars need to be just that but some where else. not in LE or the Military.

YOU want someone you can count on to get your back, I have seen wanna be's break and run the opposite direction then the fan gets over loaded. They then blow up this giant Wyatt Earp story for the crowd/listeners. It was not for those of us there, we know what happened.

 

[Smoke]

SMOKE, how the emulsified HELL do you meet all these outlandish people? Are you an idiot magnet?

I told you I'm a security guard

 

[olcop]

Posers

Got a friend that is/was jump qualified, but never says anything about it----in his small town their local poser told everyone who would listen that he was a paratrooper and had made over 1,000 combat jumps, sometimes, he said, that they would jump from such high altitudes that they would have to freefall for 30 minutes
before they could open their chutes----he asked my friend one day if it was true that he was a paratrooper, friend said yes---it's a lotta fun ain't it the poser replied and sneaked off, and hasn't told any more stories since.
FI: terminal velocity for a jumper is about 120mph which would mean that they jumped from an altitude of 60 miles.
olcop

 

[Donn]

I don't hang around LGSs but I gather that there is an inordinate number of ex Navy Seals out there.

You noticed that too? SF, Airborne Rangers and Marine Recon as well. When I was in, for every one man in combat arms, there were nine in support and none of those nine were in any great hurry to volunteer for a grunt unit. You'd never know it these days. Seems like everyone jumped out of a C-130 at 600 feet with an M-16 in each hand and a Ka-Bar clenched in his teeth.

 

[Pilgrim]

If I hear one more person say they have a clearance above Top Secret I just might scream.

Don't know about the Air Force, but when I was in the Army [1977-1984] there were higher clearances than TS. TSIP was for intel people and one for General officers that I forget what it was called.

Dunno if it's higher, but I had a Top Secret Cryptographic clearance with the Army Security Agency/NSA. I was told when I got it there was none higher and my ID would get me anywhere I NEEDED to go. NEED was the operational word there.

Just telling you what I was told.


And no, I am not a poser... I can prove my service.

 

[ChuckS1]

You forgot the most important clearance; DTA (don't tell anybody).

You forgot STUPID, because that's the reason most stuff is classified and the Govt is just too embarrassed to let people find out.

 

[the ringo kid]

Yep. It's classified as "free speech". What else would you expect from that bunch?

I think thats going to make it easier in the future, to yell :fire: in a crowded theater.

 

[the ringo kid]

I once knew a guy, who had such a problem with telling the truth, that he would cheat at Monopoly. You know, if you've played the game enough, you remember what the rent is for most of the properties. You would land on his property, and he would tell you a bogus amount. What a creep.

I know a guy just like that. He cheated me=blind on Backgammon.

Another time, we had a game ofRisk going on, and after a solid week of playing, I was clearly getting the upper hand and figured the next session, he was going to lose. Well,I showed up the same time the next day, but he told me that he fell asleep on the davenport next to the table we had the game set up on, and when he woke up during the night, """ACCIDENTALLY""" kicked the game board and it fell on the floor. I said it was OK, because I knew how my forces were deployed and how much I had as well as I knew what cards I had. Dana is a poor loser and hated losing any game.

 

[oldafsp]

Let's make it easy guys.

The true heros are the ones you never see, always in the background. They go about their daily lives and don't complain, and are thankful for each and every day.

They know who has "Seen the Elephant" and who hasn't.

And they were scared. Anyone who says they weren't...well.

I personally saw a MSgt pickup a mama san who was struck by rocket shrapnel and run a half a mile to the dispensary with her in his arms. And then he went back to work. His job: maintenence.

How many ways can you spell HERO ?

 

[1sg]

It's been my privilege to personally know some genuine heroes and true combat studs. Virtually all of them were very humble, allowing their deeds and reputation to speak for them. I tend to be very suspicious of anyone who brags about their exploits.

 

[rn4j0r]

Got a few friends like this, best tactic is to just ignore em.

 

[pineappleshooter]

OK I am offically confused
Here you say there's nothing higher than a Top Secret clearence



But here you talk about clearences that are above Top Secret



I'm reading "there is no mountain taller than Mount Everest on Earth except for these other mountains that are"

Can you clarify ?

Smoke,

There is a difference between clearance and access. Top Secret is the highest clearance you can have. SCI refers to the access you have. You have to be "read in" to a compartment to have access - you still have a Top Secret clearance. I did some records declassification work for the Air Force and Navy and held a Top Secret clearance with a laundry list of access's - we had to be cleared for darn near anything since you never knew what you would be getting into when you opened the next box of records. Hope this helps.

 

[rwsmith]

Hey.....

OK I am offically confused
Here you say there's nothing higher than a Top Secret clearence



But here you talk about clearences that are above Top Secret

Don't forget "Double Top Secret".

 

[DeathGrip]

I don't like to brag but I'm gonna tell you just between us,

My hands are registered weapons.

 

[walkin jack]

I despise a poser. They demean the service and patriotism and honor of those that really served. It takes a totally despicable low life to falsely claim military service.

 

[shouldazagged]

I don't like to brag but I'm gonna tell you just between us,

My hands are registered weapons.

That's nothing, my earlobes are.

 

[Smoke]

I don't like to brag but I'm gonna tell you just between us,

My hands are registered weapons.

I've actually had people tell me this, My general response is that Colorado law specifically forbids the registry of firearms but requires that you register your hands?

Get a lot bde bde but but buts when i throw that one.

 

[DeathGrip]

That's nothing, my earlobes are.

You should get that checked.

 

[OldDominion]

Well, I did serve during the Vietnam War. I started out as a Diddybop with a Top Secret and ended up flying a forklift in Base Supply at SAC HQ at Offut AFB or as we called it "Offal." When the wind was right, you got a whiff of those 100+ year old stock yards in Aromaha (Omaha). That should have qualified as "hazardous duty." But figure without us supply guys, it all grinds to a stop. One neat thing we did have in my AO was a secure cold storage box full of gun camera film. When the order came down for some, we had five minutes to get it out. I used to enjoy going out to the flight line when the British Vulcans would land for a visit. Neat plane. That and at night when the F4s would take off. They always hit the burners on takeoff. Pretty cool show. But you learned quick not to be anywhere behind the KC135s when they started their roll. That kero they burn covers you in soot. That's as close as I ever got to any hostile action. I take a knee to anyone who served in the RVN. Supply, PLO or Para Rescue 'cause there weren't any front lines there.