PPK With Issues

[Drago17]

I have a S&W made .380 PPK with two issues. First it can't be disassembled. With the trigger guard pulled down, the slide will only move a small fraction of an inch further to the rear. Second, it hasn't been returned for the safety recall. To fix these issues, who do I contact S&W or Walther?

 

[03hemi]

I have a S&W made .380 PPK with two issues. First it can't be disassembled. With the trigger guard pulled down, the slide will only move a small fraction of an inch further to the rear. Second, it hasn't been returned for the safety recall. To fix these issues, who do I contact S&W or Walther?

It's possible it could have been made after the recalled PPKS, I'd check the serial number batch on S&W's web site first, I have one of these.
S&W is who will do the recall work if needed.
Is yours a PPK or a PPKS?

 

[jsbethel]

S&W is who will do the recall work if needed.

Walther does the recall work now - RECALLS – www.waltherarms.com

 

[Drago17]

Walther does the recall work now - RECALLS – www.waltherarms.com

Thank you.

 

[Drago17]

It's possible it could have been made after the recalled PPKS, I'd check the serial number batch on S&W's web site first, I have one of these.
S&W is who will do the recall work if needed.
Is yours a PPK or a PPKS?

It is a blue PPK, serial# 7XXXB*E

 

[BigBoy99]

With the trigger guard pulled down, the slide will only move a small fraction of an inch further to the rear.

After the slide has moved to the rear. it has to be lifted up, off of the frame.

 

[ispcapt]

My older blued Interarms PPK/s sometimes will be contrary removing the slide. Have to get it in exactly the right position, say a few magic words, and then it will lift off. Other times no problem.

 

[Imissedagain]

These are the magical words:

Du solltest besser loskommen oder ich tausche dich gegen eine Glock.

Did you try soaking it in Hoppe's or a similar product?
Sometimes our S&Walther PPKs pistols are stubborn, but as stated above, I just take my time, ease it back and lift.

It takes a very firm pull after the initial movement that is easier.
I wear gloves as the recoil spring is mighty stout.
They are great shooters and very accurate.
Trigger smoothed out nice in DA and especially in SA.

 

[Narragansett]

It's possible it could have been made after the recalled PPKS, I'd check the serial number batch on S&W's web site first, I have one of these.
S&W is who will do the recall work if needed.
Is yours a PPK or a PPKS?

Sorry to correct you 03, but the recall work will be done by Walther in Arkansas or Alabama, wherever they are. I inherited one of the TALO laser engraved premier models that fell in the recall range.

Contact Walther, they will pay the shipping both ways. Mine was about a 2 weeks from the day I sent it to the day I got it back.

*** A Tip*** I sent mine with no magazine, and it came back with a finger extension mag

 

[armorer951]

Disassembly.....video courtesy Walther Firearms

Walther PPK and PPK/S Field Stripping - YouTube

 

[Drago17]

Thank you for the disassembly instructions. I've owned a German police turn in PPK since the late 1970's and an Interarms PPK/S almost as long. On the S&W PPK I described above, the slide only moves about 1/32nd of an inch with the trigger guard down, far short of the position needed to lift the slide up and off of the frame. I have been told that some of the early S&W PPK's had an issue with disassembly,and lucky me, I have one of those.

 

[Imissedagain]

Since you're familiar with these pistols and the initial movement is closer to a half inch or so, this is something I read on the web.

Remove the grips, put the gun in a bag and into the freezer for several hours or more.
Then put on gloves and try it again.

Some said that worked, so they looked for problems and tried moving the side, without the recoil spring, looking for hangups before sending it to the factory.

 

[03hemi]

It is a blue PPK, serial# 7XXXB*E

Once again, I'm confused. lol
S&W didn't make any blued PPK's did they?
Only a certain batch of the Walthers made by S&W were recalled, Smith's were all in stainless regardless I thought?
Could be wrong though.
EDIT: Certainly am wrong, I googled it and they did make them in blue, my bad.

 

[armorer951]

I'm certainly no expert in these models, although I have a pre-WW2 PPK.

I thought the trigger guard assembly acted purely as a block to limit the rearward movement of the slide during firing? I can't understand why the slide would move back normally with this mechanism (trigger guard) in place, but won't move rearward when it's withdrawn downward out of the frame.

 

[03hemi]

Because threads suck without pictures, let me make up for my ignorance with a picture. lol

 

[Imissedagain]

I have both blued and stainless S&Walthers PPKs pistols from around 2012?
See post #8 as no thread should be pictureless.
The blued might be a wee bit more accurate but it may be a Bond thing or just me.

One of these days I'll have time for a shootoff between the S&Walthers and the P238s at 25/50/100 yds.... then enlarge the holes with a 460 scoped.

I usually have the LCP in my pocket or the stainless Ruger Officer in 45.

 

[BB57]

1. Remove the magazine,
2. pull the front of the trigger guard all the way down,
3. Pull the slide all the way down, and
4. lift the rear of the slide off the frame.

It's normally that simple. However the spring length is critical and a slightly out of spec spring can prevent the slide from going all the way back. Release the trigger guard, reinsert the magazine, retract the slide until it locks back, liberally lubricate the barrel so the oil will transfer to the spring, cycle the slide several times and then repeat steps 1-4.