sigp220.45
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I’m sure more information will come out. It is entirely possible the shots between the killer and the cop were nearly simultaneous.
Practice with what you carry conversation got me thinking - UPDATE
- Thread starter Grimjaws
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9mmPatriot,
Unfortunately this creep will not be eliminated, as New York does not have the death penalty. If the feds try him as a terrorist he could conceivably get a death penalty, but it would be 30 years or so before it happens; think of the nut-case major from Ft. Hood who shot up service members about to deploy.
Unfortunately this creep will not be eliminated, as New York does not have the death penalty. If the feds try him as a terrorist he could conceivably get a death penalty, but it would be 30 years or so before it happens; think of the nut-case major from Ft. Hood who shot up service members about to deploy.
9mmPatriot
Member
MG34/bar,I think you were addressing the comments by someone else....
BourbonCowboy
Member
In response to the original post:
Yes, I carry the gun I practice with. Either my HK VP9sk or P30sk. But I've gone further. All of my semiautos are HK (VP9sk, VP9, P30sk...and a P30L later this year), and I only shoot 124g ammo. All of my pistols have an Olight BALDR laser/light mounted on them, and all are equipped with Speed Sights. I have two Orca Tactical range bags, and they're identically outfitted...right down the emergency flashlights and small binoculars.
When I reach for a pistol, I know how the gun will feel in my hand and how the recoil will register. I know what my sight picture will look like. As a lefty, I know that the paddle mag releases and ambi slide release will be on any pistol of my choosing.
Maybe I'm OCD or anal retentive, or just plain weird...but if I ever have to reach for a pistol to defend my wife or myself, I don't want any surprises.
Yes, I carry the gun I practice with. Either my HK VP9sk or P30sk. But I've gone further. All of my semiautos are HK (VP9sk, VP9, P30sk...and a P30L later this year), and I only shoot 124g ammo. All of my pistols have an Olight BALDR laser/light mounted on them, and all are equipped with Speed Sights. I have two Orca Tactical range bags, and they're identically outfitted...right down the emergency flashlights and small binoculars.
When I reach for a pistol, I know how the gun will feel in my hand and how the recoil will register. I know what my sight picture will look like. As a lefty, I know that the paddle mag releases and ambi slide release will be on any pistol of my choosing.
Maybe I'm OCD or anal retentive, or just plain weird...but if I ever have to reach for a pistol to defend my wife or myself, I don't want any surprises.
" Practice with what you carry conversation"
Depending on where I'm heading and for how long I have several carry handguns. I do practice with all of them. The downside is I don't Make the time to shoot as often as I should.
Depending on where I'm heading and for how long I have several carry handguns. I do practice with all of them. The downside is I don't Make the time to shoot as often as I should.
I don't rotate. Same gun, same sticky, same ammo, same pocket.
My hand knows exactly what it is reaching for and muscle memory takes it from there.
My hand knows exactly what it is reaching for and muscle memory takes it from there.
heeter3
Member
I train with everyone of my revolvers from the 2 inchers to the 6's.Revolvers are all I own and all I want to own.As we all know practice is the key whether dry or live fire and I always have a speed strip or speed loader depending on what I'm carrying that day and dont forget that the new york reload is a very viable option and will give you at least 10 and up to twelve ,again depending on the configuration.Stay safe my friends and may God bless the peace makers and peace keepers.
Grim jaws I can tell you the Niagara Co Sheriffs share your opinion of being under armed. At the Lockport Walmart this morning only one entrance was open. Security guard was a deputy. He had his issued side arm but also a rifle on a 1 point sling. Not sure what the rifle was as I didn’t want to be “that guy” staring at him. But it was not an AR. As I left there was a second deputy there as well. I had a NAA 22mag in my pocket. Something is better than nothing.
I have real world experience reloading a revolver in the midst of a gunfight, but that was 1974. I’m now 75 w/back & hip problems so carrying a modern semi auto is not doable. A light J Frame in a pocket holster has been my EDC for many years, but it’s better than nothing.
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I worked in the Philippines 2013-2018. In the big cities, every mall, every store had metal detectors and long-gun armed security at all public and employee entrances. They had a terror-bombing in 2009 and afterward required that level security by national law.
You can own firearms there, but cannot carry concealed without a permit, and even then not into stores or most public places. You check your firearm in hotels, where they'll keep them secure.
keith44spl
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It's a Mad Mad World
Get ready for it to come to a city near...all of us.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/nyc-400-donated-bulletproof-vests-stolen-ukraine-war
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Get ready for it to come to a city near...all of us.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/nyc-400-donated-bulletproof-vests-stolen-ukraine-war
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Your a wise man Sir. Something is far better than nothing and if you train with said something your way ahead of the game. Hope your enjoying retirement Old Cop. I have no " carry rotation ", unless of course it mirrors any other weapon I would normally carry. Being unfamiliar can cause bad things.
Here in kalifornia we need a permit to carry a concealed handgun. My jurisdiction normally only allows one handgun to be chosen. I had to petition the Sheriff to get a second pistol added to my permit. My reasoning was that I train with my carry pistol, and that I wanted a second of the same type as a backup just in case my primary failed for some reason. That was the only reason my request was approved.
Both my pistols are full size 1911 .45 Government Models. It is always funny when I go in for my yearly range qualifications. My sidearms always draw extra attention and approval of the instructor when presented among the other permit holder's compact semi autos and J-frame sized revolvers. Civilian carry of a full size pistol must really be a rarity in our county. I've just always figured that if I needed a gun for personal protection, it should be as effective as possible in that application.
In the world we live today where the fight is most likely against other well armed men, a few more rounds and the ability for a fast reload has proven itself to be an issue. As much as I like my revolvers, the 1911 makes more sense for "social work" these days.
Both my pistols are full size 1911 .45 Government Models. It is always funny when I go in for my yearly range qualifications. My sidearms always draw extra attention and approval of the instructor when presented among the other permit holder's compact semi autos and J-frame sized revolvers. Civilian carry of a full size pistol must really be a rarity in our county. I've just always figured that if I needed a gun for personal protection, it should be as effective as possible in that application.
In the world we live today where the fight is most likely against other well armed men, a few more rounds and the ability for a fast reload has proven itself to be an issue. As much as I like my revolvers, the 1911 makes more sense for "social work" these days.
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DUSTYDOGDAN
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I carried a J Frame 38 for years.
For close to 15 years I carried a J Frame 38 in a fanny pack.
I was made fun of but hung in there for years because I was armed 100% of the time when out in public.
After going through several fanny packs when it was time to buy another fanny pack I decided to get an auto because it was lighter and because Boise wasn't the small little city it had been for the past few decades and I could have a few more rounds and have a easier reload.
I went through several pistols.
#1 was a Taurus 380 and it was a big mistake because it wasn't 100% reliable and ammo was expensive for the true defense rounds.
#2 I went all in and bought a Sig Sauer P938 and it's a great pistol but having the 1911 cocked and locked was OK but I found the safety off once when putting the 938 on the bed stand and that was all it took to go find a striker fired pistol.
#3 Was a S&W Shield 9MM Generation 1 that was on sale and it has been a 100% reliable in 3500+ rounds.
#4 Shield Plus -->It's a long story but I found out that Taurus had a lifetime warrantee and I sent it back and they said they couldn't fix it and sent a 9mm to replace it. I ended up trading it in on a Shield Plus + a very small amount of money.
The Shield Plus is great but i will say if I didn't send the Taurus for repair I was 100% satisfied when my Gen 1 Shield.
The biggest thing I can say is if you buy something new and find yourself not carrying it just remember you have that good old trusty J-Frame
For close to 15 years I carried a J Frame 38 in a fanny pack.
I was made fun of but hung in there for years because I was armed 100% of the time when out in public.
After going through several fanny packs when it was time to buy another fanny pack I decided to get an auto because it was lighter and because Boise wasn't the small little city it had been for the past few decades and I could have a few more rounds and have a easier reload.
I went through several pistols.
#1 was a Taurus 380 and it was a big mistake because it wasn't 100% reliable and ammo was expensive for the true defense rounds.
#2 I went all in and bought a Sig Sauer P938 and it's a great pistol but having the 1911 cocked and locked was OK but I found the safety off once when putting the 938 on the bed stand and that was all it took to go find a striker fired pistol.
#3 Was a S&W Shield 9MM Generation 1 that was on sale and it has been a 100% reliable in 3500+ rounds.
#4 Shield Plus -->It's a long story but I found out that Taurus had a lifetime warrantee and I sent it back and they said they couldn't fix it and sent a 9mm to replace it. I ended up trading it in on a Shield Plus + a very small amount of money.
The Shield Plus is great but i will say if I didn't send the Taurus for repair I was 100% satisfied when my Gen 1 Shield.
The biggest thing I can say is if you buy something new and find yourself not carrying it just remember you have that good old trusty J-Frame
