Pre-24 four inch with mystery barrel

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Hi, my name is Shotguncoach, and I'm a Pre-24 o'holic. They just keep following my home. Really....I don't know how it happens.

This one arrived today, and as usual my FFL tried to talk me out of it. He told me on the phone that it was a rusty, hacked up piece of junk and that he would help me out and take it off my hands for $100. :rolleyes:

I'm thinking that it's been reblued with a very light touch. There's just a bit of softening around the stampings and the screw holes. All of the lettering is still clear though.

It's wearing a set of antler stocks with S&W logo emblems. There is no makers mark that I recognize, just the number '18' on both sides and what could be "H-S-N" or "U-S-N" on the left panel. I'm hoping that someone can ID the manufacturer of the stocks. They fit well and feel great in the hand.

The mystery is the barrel: there is no serial number. It has the letter "S" stamped in the ejector rod housing where it would normally appear, but there is no serial number following it. There is another, larger "S" and a diamond stamped closer to the frame in the ejector rod housing. A factory replacement barrel maybe? Has anyone seen this before? There is no factory re-work date stamp that I can find.

Overall the gun is in excellent shape. The bluing is so reflective that it was difficult to get pictures without having my reflection show in the sideplate. I haven't opened the action up yet but I know what I will find: someone has already been in there and done a nice job. I can see a Wolff hammer spring with the stocks off, and the trigger pull is 2 lbs single action and 8 lbs double action. And it's smoooooth. :D

I'll have a range report up tomorrow. For now, here are some early pictures. If anyone can help on the stocks or the non-serialized barrel I'd appreciate it.

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Edit to add: Yes, this is number 6. I told you I had a problem. :o

The serial numbers are: S98758, S100023, S118071, S118227, S118277, and this one S145188.

Here's the rest of the pack:


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I can perhaps give you some help---coupled with a SWAG---or two or three. We'll see how it goes.

I had a Satin blue K-22 I returned to be refinished in Bright Blue. It came back with the markings S <> on the several pieces---(S&W finishes/refinishes guns in pieces). In this instance, I decided S <> translated to S= Return to Service Department---<> = Bright Blue. So much for that.

My best guess (assuming the S <> appears no where else on your gun) is, 1. The barrel is a replacement, and was finished/refinished in bright blue. If those models are finished in both Satin and Bright Blue, it's pretty much a lead pipe cinch it (the barrel) started out either in the white or in Satin Blue. I'm told (by Jinks) the Service folks work on one gun at a time, with no parts from other guns on their bench (negating the need to number replacement parts)---hence no number on your barrel.

A letter will tell you the specs on your gun when it was first shipped. If we're lucky, it shipped with other than a 4" barrel, so there will be no more wondering about that. Otherwise, don't sweat the small stuff---the gun is what it is.

Ralph Tremaine
 
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You should communicate with the S&W Historical Foundation, if you are a member. They might have some information about it's return to the factory.

Mike Priwer

I need to get that done....I've been reminding myself to get the applications in to the SWCA and SWHF for a couple of months now. Thanks for the reminder.
 
In my limited experience, 2 guns, that went back to the factory and had barrels replaced, both were serial numbered to the gun. one was a Registered Magnum, the other a Regulation Police. That does not mean that yours wasn't done by the factory.

A lot depends on the time period involved.
 
The S<> means factory rework of some kind usually involving a refinish. A factory barrel change is highly unlikely w/o being stamped with the gun's serial number.

The most confusing situations usually involve two or more separate occurrences. Also we have to keep in mind that factory marking protocols can vary by technician and different time periods.

In this case one scenario might be:

The barrel was replaced outside the factory, subsequently later followed by a trip to the factory for a refinish. The missing factory rework date stamp on the grip frame could be due to the eventual phase out of date stamping after the 1970s or so (I don't have my notes with me now).
 
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