dkees
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Where does a snake's head end and the neck start?
Proper arms for clearing the pythons from the “glades”?
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44forever
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As a confirmed phobic when it comes to snakes, I vote for claymore mines with grenades for backup. Or we could feed them toxic politicos but we would have to import a lot more snakes to make any difference in the political picture.
TNDixieGirl
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I would start off with something like this.
If that failed, I'd run like the wind.
If that failed, I'd run like the wind.
Dan Cash
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Killing the beggars is not so hard. I would want to do it carefully to preserve the pelt. Boot, gun belts, holsters, coats, seat covers. Oh boy. 
BarbC
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Bring along the whisky:
Giant Snake (and Lizard) Bites: Open Letter to Emergency Responders
And bring the grenades:
YouTube - SNAKE ATTACK without body! Slow Motion!
Farmer Danny Anderson, 53, must have thought he had things under control after using a shovel to hack the head off a snake that had slithered onto his farm in central Washington State. He couldn't possibly have predicted what happened next: The severed head did a "backflip almost" and bit his finger, the AP reports, sending Anderson to the hospital as his tongue swelled from venom. Actually, maybe he could have predicted this bizarre plot twist from straight out of Snakes on a Plane 2. At least five other men have received snakebites on their fingers from dead or decapitated snakes, according to a 1999 New England Journal of Medicine paper. The phenomenon may go even further back. As noted in the December 1999 SciAm, poet Percy Bysshe Shelley wrote in an 1820 letter to his wife Mary that "vipers kill, though dead." In fact, "decapitated snake heads are dangerous for between 20 and 60 minutes after removal from the body of the snake," Jeffrey Suchard of the Good Samaritan Regional Medical Center in Phoenix told SciAm's own Steve Mirsky earlier that year. So remember: wait an hour before handling a dead snake. (AP)
[FONT=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]Alternatives to killing the reptile when it won't let go.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]©1996 Melissa Kaplan[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]©1996 Melissa Kaplan[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]I wrote and mailed this letter off to the local law enforcement, fire, animal regulation and humane societies in the aftermath of yet another news story about a case of a snake whose head was cut off because the individuals responding to the emergency call had no clue as to what to do. Needless to say, if the owners had a clue, they likely wouldn't have been bitten in the first place...[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]August 22, 1996[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]Dear Emergency Responder,[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]This morning's news again brought to light an incident where emergency responders inappropriately dealt with a snake bite situation by cutting off the snake's head with a hacksaw.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]Snakes have recurved teeth. They cannot be pulled off or pried off. Hitting and punching them will not make them loosen their hold. Trying to wedge your fingers into the corners of their mouth (as one would to a cat or dog to get them to open) will only result in the responder getting pricked with the rearmost teeth. If anything, such actions will result in the snakes clenching their jaws yet more tightly while intensifying their hold on the person.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]Cutting their heads off is senseless. Reptiles can be easily encouraged to release their bite by pouring a small amount of alcohol into their mouths. To ensure the safety of the snake, responder, and the person being bitten, the snake's head should be pointed downwards. This will ensure that the liquid does not spill into their open glottis (airway) and so get aspirated into their lung(s). If this were to happen, an immediate effect may be renewed panic or thrashing on the part of the snake; a late effect would be a respiratory infection.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]Ideally, alcohol made for drinking (liquor) should be used rather than isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol. Rubbing alcohol is toxic. Vinegar has worked in some instances and can be tried first if no liquor is handy. It does not take much alcohol to effect the release. Generally speaking, the snake will noticeably pause in all movement for a few moments after the alcohol is poured onto the tissues inside the mouth (pouring it on the head or body does not work). It will then move to disengage its teeth (most snakes have two nested rows of teeth in the upper jaw) by working its jaws, retracting its head from the bite zone once it is free. If you don't have any form of liquid alcohol handy, try ammonia, either liquid or in the little ammonia-soaked pads wrapped packets for use when people feel faint.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]To easily unwrap a snake from any person or object, you must start working from the tail end, unwrapping or uncoiling the body, working your way up towards the head. If you start at the head and try to work towards the tail, the snake will easily be able to resist. Even a large, strong python who is not thrilled with all the commotion and multiple hands on it can be unwound when you start from the tail.[/FONT]
Giant Snake (and Lizard) Bites: Open Letter to Emergency Responders
And bring the grenades:
YouTube - SNAKE ATTACK without body! Slow Motion!
Farmer Danny Anderson, 53, must have thought he had things under control after using a shovel to hack the head off a snake that had slithered onto his farm in central Washington State. He couldn't possibly have predicted what happened next: The severed head did a "backflip almost" and bit his finger, the AP reports, sending Anderson to the hospital as his tongue swelled from venom. Actually, maybe he could have predicted this bizarre plot twist from straight out of Snakes on a Plane 2. At least five other men have received snakebites on their fingers from dead or decapitated snakes, according to a 1999 New England Journal of Medicine paper. The phenomenon may go even further back. As noted in the December 1999 SciAm, poet Percy Bysshe Shelley wrote in an 1820 letter to his wife Mary that "vipers kill, though dead." In fact, "decapitated snake heads are dangerous for between 20 and 60 minutes after removal from the body of the snake," Jeffrey Suchard of the Good Samaritan Regional Medical Center in Phoenix told SciAm's own Steve Mirsky earlier that year. So remember: wait an hour before handling a dead snake. (AP)
BigNC
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Whiskey AND FIRE
You bring the whiskey if you want, boss-lady but I'm bringing fire too!
I R SKEERD UF SNAYKS!
You bring the whiskey if you want, boss-lady but I'm bringing fire too!
I R SKEERD UF SNAYKS!
Smitty500Mag
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People wading through the Everglades trying to catch the Pythons would be killed by the native poisonous snakes or Gators before they ever got close to catching all of the Pythons.
That's about the dumbest idea I've heard lately because the Everglades are massive and you couldn't hire enough people to be able to cover every square foot of the swamp.
Smitty
That's about the dumbest idea I've heard lately because the Everglades are massive and you couldn't hire enough people to be able to cover every square foot of the swamp.
Smitty
bk43
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We aim to please Smitty. They're going after them.
Python Hunt In South Fla. Begins Friday - Orlando News Story - WESH Orlando
Bob
Man eating Pythons and softball sized cockroaches 
no thanks. I prefer freezing over being eaten.
no thanks. I prefer freezing over being eaten.
lcdrdanr
US Veteran
BarbC;1015819 [LEFT said:
I'm somewhat confused as to how one is going to POUR (i.e allow gravity to work and allow the liquid to fall downwards while at the same time keeping the snake's head pointed downward.
I am unable to comprehend how gravity will allow the liquid to pour upwards into the downward pointing mouth.
Without the issues of doing all this while dealing with an individual who has a snake attached to a portion of their body.
Dan R
Smitty;
Bill Nelson is a long way from the sharpest tool in the box and his box is the US Senate known for dull tools. I have no doubt that a typical grass snake could outsmart him.
I have looked at the Saw Grass there and here, I will not be wading in there anytime soon.
Some have reported seeing Reticulated Pythons in the Glades, reliable? Who knows?
The cover in the Glades is almost perfect for a large snake. Evidently you cannot see them from an airboat or plane. There are some open channels but of uncertain direction. The whole idea is a brilliant way to spent Federal Bucks, if you put a very large crew in, they might never find a snake, or they might find many.
Whatever they found no one could ever say they found them all. So more money is needed.
Evidently you can trap them with a slatted cage, you put the bait in the cage, snake swallows bait and cannot get out through the slats until the bait is digested. You need something that makes a lot of distress noise to attract the snake..
Bill Nelson is a long way from the sharpest tool in the box and his box is the US Senate known for dull tools. I have no doubt that a typical grass snake could outsmart him.
I have looked at the Saw Grass there and here, I will not be wading in there anytime soon.
Some have reported seeing Reticulated Pythons in the Glades, reliable? Who knows?
The cover in the Glades is almost perfect for a large snake. Evidently you cannot see them from an airboat or plane. There are some open channels but of uncertain direction. The whole idea is a brilliant way to spent Federal Bucks, if you put a very large crew in, they might never find a snake, or they might find many.
Whatever they found no one could ever say they found them all. So more money is needed.
Evidently you can trap them with a slatted cage, you put the bait in the cage, snake swallows bait and cannot get out through the slats until the bait is digested. You need something that makes a lot of distress noise to attract the snake..
Will one of you out there please tell me what this comment has to do with hunting wild Pythons in the Glades???
"The hunt comes after an area toddler was strangled by a python that escaped from its aquarium and slithered into her bed." (Mother's Boyfriend's Pet)
And then we have this from our beloved Gov.:
"Gov. Charlie Crist said Wednesday that python trapping will ensure a healthy future for Florida wildlife and habitats in the Everglades."
Good Grief Charlie!
"The hunt comes after an area toddler was strangled by a python that escaped from its aquarium and slithered into her bed." (Mother's Boyfriend's Pet)
And then we have this from our beloved Gov.:
"Gov. Charlie Crist said Wednesday that python trapping will ensure a healthy future for Florida wildlife and habitats in the Everglades."
Good Grief Charlie!
At least when Crist becomes Senator, he won't be around much.
I can see from most folks location on where they live, they have no idea how vast and dangerous the Glades are. One really has to know what they are doing to even venture into the Glades let alone hunt anything.
You need the "local good ole boys" with airboats to know your way around. You get lost in a minute, your dead. Then the native snakes and gators will get you.
If and when you might encounter a snake I would want several Stainless, semi auto and or pump 10-12 gauge with 00 buck shot. You stand no chance with even the biggest hand gun unless it is a instant head shot which ain't gonna happen. These snakes are underwater, in trees, in the saw grass, you'd be lucky to even see one.
Not like gator hunting at night "shining" so you can there beady big eyes.
No where like sitting in a blind in some Northern or Southern woods waiting for some dumb deer or hog to come walking by. These are top of the food chain predators.
I have lived in SW Florida all my life and no way would I try to hunt them. Even if they do taste like chicken Leave it the Native Indians and Crackers who live in the Glades. But I do not even think they can put a dent in the population.
You need the "local good ole boys" with airboats to know your way around. You get lost in a minute, your dead. Then the native snakes and gators will get you.
If and when you might encounter a snake I would want several Stainless, semi auto and or pump 10-12 gauge with 00 buck shot. You stand no chance with even the biggest hand gun unless it is a instant head shot which ain't gonna happen. These snakes are underwater, in trees, in the saw grass, you'd be lucky to even see one.
Not like gator hunting at night "shining" so you can there beady big eyes.
No where like sitting in a blind in some Northern or Southern woods waiting for some dumb deer or hog to come walking by. These are top of the food chain predators.
I have lived in SW Florida all my life and no way would I try to hunt them. Even if they do taste like chicken
Leave it the Native Indians and Crackers who live in the Glades. But I do not even think they can put a dent in the population.Texas Star
US Veteran
Found some good, pertinent, videos. Well worth watching, although some of you inclined to have bad dreams might not want to see these too close to bedtime...
YouTube - Man vs Indian Python - MUST SEE !!
(Man vs. Indian python. Scary!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np8Ki4VEEVk&feature=related
World's largest snakes. Caution: one very brief nude scene of a woman in the bathtub with a big snake. Some of the things that you'll see here are just baffling. Why people would let their children near these big snakes just confounds me. You can see that MANY of these snakes would have NO problem killing a man, and photos of the constriction marks and bites will get your attention! Some big spiders, too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7XY3dMVNhg&feature=related
South African snake handler takes absurd chances with a big King Cobra. I saw this guy get tagged by a cobra in Namibia. He takes chances that I think are just too much.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m05rUooBwHQ&feature=related
Gaboon Viper (Adder) eats a rat. These have the longest venomous fangs of any snake, and huge amounts of venom. They are VERY deadly!
YouTube - Man vs Indian Python - MUST SEE !!
(Man vs. Indian python. Scary!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np8Ki4VEEVk&feature=related
World's largest snakes. Caution: one very brief nude scene of a woman in the bathtub with a big snake. Some of the things that you'll see here are just baffling. Why people would let their children near these big snakes just confounds me. You can see that MANY of these snakes would have NO problem killing a man, and photos of the constriction marks and bites will get your attention! Some big spiders, too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7XY3dMVNhg&feature=related
South African snake handler takes absurd chances with a big King Cobra. I saw this guy get tagged by a cobra in Namibia. He takes chances that I think are just too much.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m05rUooBwHQ&feature=related
Gaboon Viper (Adder) eats a rat. These have the longest venomous fangs of any snake, and huge amounts of venom. They are VERY deadly!
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sigp220.45
US Veteran
Why this, of course:
Do pythons like snow? If not, I'm safe.
Good stuff! Man vs Python and they are on dry land! Imagine in the glades with water and saw grass ripping you apart and drowning.
Sad but true that the Burmese Python is expected to be in the entire temperate zone (read south) of the USA, not just Florida, in the next few years.
There are, according to what I saw on TV, already to many to after and try to kill off and apparently they breed almost as fast as rabbits.
The native animals, rabbits, raccoons, opossums, etc., DO NOT know them a predators and are rapidly becoming endangered.
Much like the Brown Tree Snake in Guam. They estimate that there are 1,300 of them for each square mile of Guam. No native birds, etc., any more. all devoured by the snake.
They found one in the household goods of a GI who came back to Corpus Christi, TX. Had been in there for almost 6 months and was still alive and well.
The more man fools with nature the BIGGER mess he makes.
Released pet snakes are becomng a very big problem.
There are, according to what I saw on TV, already to many to after and try to kill off and apparently they breed almost as fast as rabbits.
The native animals, rabbits, raccoons, opossums, etc., DO NOT know them a predators and are rapidly becoming endangered.
Much like the Brown Tree Snake in Guam. They estimate that there are 1,300 of them for each square mile of Guam. No native birds, etc., any more. all devoured by the snake.
They found one in the household goods of a GI who came back to Corpus Christi, TX. Had been in there for almost 6 months and was still alive and well.
The more man fools with nature the BIGGER mess he makes.
Released pet snakes are becomng a very big problem.
