PSA: Before you rush out to "upgrade" to a Shield PLUS...

[GT_80]

Bought the new Shield Plus on Friday and took it to the Range for first session yesterday. I'm generally an understated kind of guy — wife says too quiet — but I was really impressed. Here are the headlines and they are all good:
Was 100% reliable out of the box. I shot 100 rounds of Fiocchi 115 FMJ and100 rounds of various defense loads, mixing them in same magazine. (Federal HST +P, Speer GDHP, Winchester Ranger 147JHP, Sig 124 V-Crown, Rem Golden Sabre). No malfunctions!
Love the new trigger. Shot to POA with no adjustment - this was a first out of five total S&W semi-autos. And, at 7 yards standing was able to put whole magazines in a fist size group with few flyers. Shot one 13- round mag of the Fiocchi from a rest sittingand produced a group just under 2".
I've always said that, for me personally, the Shields felt recoils for caliber have always felt softer than other pistols of comparable size. Not sure why this is but it just is.
The new grip size is almost indiscernible from original . For me, Actually makes the gun feel better. I have Talon grips on my other Shields but don't plan to put them on the Plus.
Bottom line is I was really impressed. I'm putting my Sig P365 on Armslist today. The Sig, although a very concealable package, never really felt good to me. Felt like Ihad a toy pistol in my hand.
My only complaint is thatI had to buy one with thumb safety because my LGS only had this one pistol. Night sights will come later with future model rollouts. That said, S&W did a much better job of this model rollout than Sig has ever done. I'm still waiting for shipping box/label to send my Sig Cross back for recall (waiting five months now)

Good to hear from a real shooter, and someone who has both now.

I'm still not ready to rush out and sell my Shield 1.0, even though with all the mags I bought for it, and the Apex trigger, I could probably get close to what a new Shield Plus goes for... But then I have to buy more new mags etc... Which I know won't be on the aftermarket for a while.

 

[jkf3356]

It Seem Like It Would Hurt M&P 2.0 Subcompact Sales

The Shield with Hogue Hand-All grip and a Mag-Guts +2 in the 8 round magazine works well, as does the M&P 9 2.0 Subcompact which will provide the increased round capacity if desired.

 

[grizz700]

As I have mentioned in the other Plus thread I paid $499 for my plus with 3-13 round mags. And I am sure that Magguts is in the process of developing a +2 for those mags and when they do I will have 15 round mags in my plus. And yes I have an original shield with the Magguts extensions and so far, in America I can buy has many guns as my budget will stand.

 

[uncleted327]

I'm personally not interested in the Plus, unless a 40 or 45 version comes next. That said I have seen no problem getting one if I so desired, availability hasn't been an issue, which is saying something these days. Buds has had at least one and sometimes three or more versions available everyday since they were released.

 

[HEADKNOCKER]

I'm Happy with the M&P Shield 2.0 & love the rough texture grip it has.
Picked up an extra 1.0 8 round magazine for $20 & plan on getting another before they become a thing of the past
I see no reason to get the "Plus" over what I already have plus the 2.0 cost Us $249 in 2019.. A Deal!!
Picked up a nice kydex IWB & a iTac paddle holster

 

[Mike SC Hunter]

Coming late 2021.....Keltec belt fed 9mm. Feeds directly from waist mounted fanny pack. 100 rounds at your fingertips.





Just Kidding!

 

[pistolpete10]

Folks, the Shield EZ is an upgrade, the Plus just holds more ammo.

 

[crracer_712]

Folks, the Shield EZ is an upgrade, the Plus just holds more ammo.

An upgrade to what? In what way?

 

[Triggernosis]

Bought the new Shield Plus on Friday and took it to the Range for first session yesterday. I'm generally an understated kind of guy — wife says too quiet — but I was really impressed. Here are the headlines and they are all good:
Was 100% reliable out of the box. I shot 100 rounds of Fiocchi 115 FMJ and100 rounds of various defense loads, mixing them in same magazine. (Federal HST +P, Speer GDHP, Winchester Ranger 147JHP, Sig 124 V-Crown, Rem Golden Sabre). No malfunctions!
Love the new trigger. Shot to POA with no adjustment - this was a first out of five total S&W semi-autos. And, at 7 yards standing was able to put whole magazines in a fist size group with few flyers. Shot one 13- round mag of the Fiocchi from a rest sittingand produced a group just under 2".
I've always said that, for me personally, the Shields felt recoils for caliber have always felt softer than other pistols of comparable size. Not sure why this is but it just is.
The new grip size is almost indiscernible from original . For me, Actually makes the gun feel better. I have Talon grips on my other Shields but don't plan to put them on the Plus.
Bottom line is I was really impressed. I'm putting my Sig P365 on Armslist today. The Sig, although a very concealable package, never really felt good to me. Felt like Ihad a toy pistol in my hand.
My only complaint is thatI had to buy one with thumb safety because my LGS only had this one pistol. Night sights will come later with future model rollouts. That said, S&W did a much better job of this model rollout than Sig has ever done. I'm still waiting for shipping box/label to send my Sig Cross back for recall (waiting five months now)

How does the Shield Plus and the P365 compare size-wise?

 

[pistolpete10]

An upgrade to what? In what way?

The trigger pull, the EZ has a hammer, trigger is great compared to striker fired.

 

[crracer_712]

They're two totally different pistols, one didn't upgrade the other.

 

[seldon14]

Folks, the Shield EZ is an upgrade, the Plus just holds more ammo.

Strong disagreement. The ez is larger, less ergonomic, less reliable, and feels less robust.

 

[song dog]

Bought the new Shield Plus on Friday and took it to the Range for first session yesterday. I'm generally an understated kind of guy — wife says too quiet — but I was really impressed. Here are the headlines and they are all good:
Was 100% reliable out of the box. I shot 100 rounds of Fiocchi 115 FMJ and100 rounds of various defense loads, mixing them in same magazine. (Federal HST +P, Speer GDHP, Winchester Ranger 147JHP, Sig 124 V-Crown, Rem Golden Sabre). No malfunctions!
Love the new trigger. Shot to POA with no adjustment - this was a first out of five total S&W semi-autos. And, at 7 yards standing was able to put whole magazines in a fist size group with few flyers. Shot one 13- round mag of the Fiocchi from a rest sittingand produced a group just under 2".
I've always said that, for me personally, the Shields felt recoils for caliber have always felt softer than other pistols of comparable size. Not sure why this is but it just is.
The new grip size is almost indiscernible from original . For me, Actually makes the gun feel better. I have Talon grips on my other Shields but don't plan to put them on the Plus.
Bottom line is I was really impressed. I'm putting my Sig P365 on Armslist today. The Sig, although a very concealable package, never really felt good to me. Felt like Ihad a toy pistol in my hand.
My only complaint is thatI had to buy one with thumb safety because my LGS only had this one pistol. Night sights will come later with future model rollouts. That said, S&W did a much better job of this model rollout than Sig has ever done. I'm still waiting for shipping box/label to send my Sig Cross back for recall (waiting five months now)

Seems the round nose and hollow points shot about the same but what was the distance ? My 1.0's 9 mils shot low @ combat ranges while my Shield 2.0 @ 7 o'clock on 3" target dot @ 7, 12 & 15' so maybe it the 2.0 trigger. I have noticed over a 1000 rounds the trigger break @ the wall improved.

 

[Ktyhawk]

Strong disagreement. The ez is larger, less ergonomic, less reliable, and feels less robust.

And is hammer fired. Not the same gun at all as the 1.0, 2.0 or 2.0+ Shield.

 

[wormraper]

Folks, the Shield EZ is an upgrade, the Plus just holds more ammo.

the shield EZ isn't an upgrade. it's only purpose (really) is for people who have weak hands and can't rack the shield's slide well.

 

[sweetfoal]

I am keeping my Shield 9mm 1.0, but upgraded the magazines with the Magguts +2 kit a couple years ago. So far 100% reliable with hundreds of rounds.

The 1.0 shield 8 lb trigger is actually perfect for EDC. Any trigger less than 5 lb I'd either want a manual safety or not chambered. If the trigger is too heavy, dry fire practices with a DA hammer for a few days then it's all good.

 

[Tomac]

I've used MagGuts in numerous magazines (currently in my Springfield 911 .380 mags) and have no problem recommending them to others.

However, increasing the mag capacity of the Shield 1.0 doesn't fix the trigger, slick grip texture or non-extended mag release and in the end still won't have the same capacity for size as the Plus.

If you're happy w/your stock/upgraded 1.0 then by all means keep it!
For me, the Plus fixes all my complaints w/the 1.0 in one nice neat package (YMMV).

 

[jewie27]

Lately there has been a lot of buzz regarding the new M&P9 Shield PLUS. Some folks are excited by the prospect of upgrading to the new Shield PLUS for the increased magazine capacity or enhanced trigger yet are dismayed by the lack of availability, while others feel blind-sided because they just recently purchased a Shield prior to the Shield PLUS being announced and would have preferred the Shield PLUS. Fortunately, there's are alternative solutions for both parties which can save you a lot of money and help to relieve a bit of stress.

If you own already own a Shield yet desire the higher capacity of the Shield PLUS, then you may want to look into Magguts Kits as well as Hyve baseplate extensions for the M&P Shield. Both of these aftermarket peripherals serve to increase the magazine capacity of the M&P Shield, they have been on the market for years now, and by all accounts they appear to be 100% reliable.
Magguts is a simple kit which includes a magazine spring and follower which allows the user to fit more rounds into the magazine without altering its external dimensions, while magazine extension baseplates offered by both Magguts and Hyve increase magazine capacity by means of increasing the length of the magazine.
Granted that neither option can enable the Shield to match the capacity of the Shield PLUS' extended 13 round magazine, but it can enable the M&P9 Shield to match the capacity of the Shield PLUS' flush-fitting 10 round magazine.

In addition, for those who prefer the flat-faced trigger design of the Shield PLUS, there are a wide variety of aftermarket trigger kits for the M&P Shield which are of similar design to that of the Shield PLUS.
However, trigger modifications are obviously less accessible to folks who lack the ability/know-how to install them and may carry the risk of voiding the warranty should they be installed by anyone other than a certified gunsmith, so just keep that in mind.

Aftermarket paripherals/modifications such as these are obviously less expensive and more available than the Shield PLUS is at this time, ergo you could save money by purchasing them as upgrades to your existing Shield rather than simply replacing it with the newer Shield PLUS. As time goes by and supply catches up with demand, the price of the Shield PLUS will drop, but for the time being demand is likely to increase while supply decreases.
Just something to consider.

The Shield Plus flat trigger fits into the original shield . You can buy one on Ebay for $80 like I did.

 

[jewie27]

I've used MagGuts in numerous magazines (currently in my Springfield 911 .380 mags) and have no problem recommending them to others.

However, increasing the mag capacity of the Shield 1.0 doesn't fix the trigger, slick grip texture or non-extended mag release and in the end still won't have the same capacity for size as the Plus.

If you're happy w/your stock/upgraded 1.0 then by all means keep it!
For me, the Plus fixes all my complaints w/the 1.0 in one nice neat package (YMMV).

Talon Grip Pro fixes that.

 

[Mike SC Hunter]

I ain't buying any of the new ones with the "swinging dingus" in the trigger' I hate those style triggers.......Might as well buy a block if you like such.
Glad I got my 3 Shields 9-40-45 with the ORIGINAL trigger.