Pulled over while carrying on out of state permit

[growr]

I have a file folder with a printout of any state I might travel through. Handgunlaw.us does an excellent job of presenting each state. This folder stays in my car at all times.

After printing it out I highlight the differences each of those states has verses what Montana law is.

"Must inform" is highlighted so that I know for a fact what each state mandates. I also highlight each states reciprocity list of states honoring my Montana permit.
Knowledge is power........ Make an informed decision!

Randy

 

[fastgun]

PAAG

Your states Attorney General website has a Reciprocity segment on the front page of their website. Very clear information but more importantly, it is authoritative so you can depend on it. Check the link above and then see Firearm Reciprocity Agreements.
Ohio is not a reciprocity state but it is listed as a state that recognizes Penn.

 

[Tyree1867]

I have a file folder with a printout of any state I might travel through. Handgunlaw.org does an excellent job of presenting each state. This folder stays in my car at all times.
Randy

The website is actually: handgunlaw.us. However Randy is correct about their excellent & up-to-date coverage of state handgun laws and reciprocity. Don't go on an out of state road trip with a handgun without checking here first. It is the top, best source for this info & it is done by a member of this forum.

 

[zeke]

If you are CC, you have a responsibility to know the law in the state you are in, or traveling through.

 

[CH4]

He gave you your answer. An officer is only allowed to detain you for a “reasonable” amount of time to conduct his investigation into the original offense and to check the status of your permit. If they lack a “reasonable suspicion” that crime is afoot and if the investigation can’t be done in a “reasonable” time, they have to cut you lose.

 

[Professor Frink]

I'm a resident of Colorado and due to the nature of my job, I travel often by car. I was pulled over by New Mexico State Trooper near Clayton (doing 80 in a 60 mph zone... was in the middle of nowhere).

Was interesting, as he approached my window, he was quite stern... bordering on unpleasant. I handed him my ID and CCW Permit and told him what I was handing him. After he looked at it, he all of a sudden was Officer Friendly. We shared a pleasant conversation about the economy, weather and such. He sent me on my way with a warning and encouragement to slow down.

I confess I was nervous initially.

I have noticed, that since my state legalized pot, I feel like I get a little more attention from out of state LE. Can't blame them for that.

 

[Old TexMex]

Well, I fail miserably in that department. I drive a lot for work and often in something like a Corvette with a "hello officer" license plate. So, there's that.

I used to get pulled a lot...so put that on there as a friendly greeting, an ice breaker.

My earlier Vette...

These days, I roll in a "dad mobile" but I kept the tag. New Vette coming when my daughter does not need a car seat.

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Well now, that takes the cake
I like it.

 

[PR24]

I was at a state police barracks in California one time. No problem as I was waiting for my wife to finish up some legal video work. A guy came in from Arizona and asked what the requirements were to bring his firearms from Arizona to California as he was relocating there. The troopers were clueless and I had to explain the regulations to him!
Jim

That's because guns are illegal in the People's Rebublik of Kalifornia. Just look at their crime rate; it speaks volumes....

No but seriously re the first question; check whatever state you intend to travel too State Police, Highway Patrol, State Patrol website. Most states in the union have the aforementioned agencies handle the state CCW permits. Better safe than sorry.

AZ DPS/Highway Patrol has a page on their www that has a chart of which state's play nice, and which do not.

Sorry the PSP Tpr. wasn't too pleasant. Here in AZ we have a whole different view of carrying by good guys/gals. Some copper's have a very clouded view of citizens carrying firearms, especially back east. NJ is probably the worst! They were trying to charge officers not from NJ with CCW violations AFTER the LEOSA act was made federal law! So yea, even the cops weren't safe in NJ. A lot of NY cops live in NJ....how's that supposed to work??

 

[Old cop]

About ten years ago I decided to qualify for LEOSA b/c we were going to NY City for our 40th anniversary. I’ve kept it up ever since and travel w/o too much concern, w/the exception of NJ. When I go there all my ammo gets switched to FMJ, but it makes me wonder why the elected leadership in NJ would want their citizens in more jeopardy from overpenetration from FMJ rounds. Ignorance abounds!

 

[ajgunner]

I have a cousin that got pulled over for speeding in WA on the interstate. She is from OR and has a OR carry permit. She handed the city officer her OR license and carry permit. He asked if she was carrying and she said yes. He asked where it was, and as she said and pointed to the center console, he tried to take her out the window by her hair. It got ugly from there and she ended up face down on the side of the interstate with a knee in her back. They towed her car, kept her revolver, and let her spend a night in the jail before bailing out. Charged with carrying a concealed weapon. It cost her a bundle to bail herself and her car out, and made the trip home another 9 hours. At the time she was in her early 20's and of course strapped for cash, so her dad got involved. His lawyer took it on as a favor and got the charge dismissed and a written apology from the officer. The only problem was now her revolver was 9 hours away and they could not legally ship it to her. They ended up shipping it to her FFL and paying for the shipping and transfer fee and BG check.

I have my OR permit and travel WA frequently, so I stepped up and got my WA permit. Just the idea of a knee in my back was enough of a boost to get me to bend over a pay for their carry fee.

Wouldn't it be nice if once your prints were on record in one state, all the others could believe your home state.

 

[Golddollar]

[QUOTE
I have my OR permit and travel WA frequently, so I stepped up and got my WA permit. Just the idea of a knee in my back was enough of a boost to get me to bend over a pay for their carry fee.[/QUOTE]

Trying to avoid a situation like this is why I try to get carry permits for where I travel a lot rather than depend on trying to explain the concept of reciprocity by the side of the road at night.

 

[vortex360]

So my question to all is have you ever been pulled over while carrying concealed using a permit issued by a state different from the one you were pulled over in? How were you treated? What was the end result from the stop? Thank you for your time.

I live in Indiana with a License to Carry Handgun. I was in New Buffalo, Michigan out on the jetty and I saw someone in blue walking in my direction. Sure enough it was a city police officer. He seemed nice then abruptly asked me in I had an LTC. Part of my magazine holster must have been showing as it was quite windy. I showed him it and my Driver's License and he handed back and then left.

 

[SRT]

Another thing you might want to find out before you travel though different states is if you have an obligation to disclose you are armed. Here in NC you must disclose to the officer upon contact that you are armed. Some states I understand you have no duty to disclose.

Even if you have no legal duty to disclose you are armed when stopped, ALWAYS, ALWAY, ALWAYS do so! If you don't, and the officer sees a firearm, lots of things happen very quickly, and none of them are good!

Stay vigilant, stay armed, stay safe...

 

[GaryS]

I check the laws on "Duty to Inform" for states I'm traveling through. If there is none, I don't.

I don't see any advantage to making a traffic stop more complicated than it needs to be.

Ohio does, as does Texas. Other states don't.

 

[357-RevolverGuy]

I am a North Carolina resident with NC CCW permit. I have been pulled over in West Virginia, Virginia, and Pennsylvania and many times in North Carolina and never, not once, been given a hard time by any law enforcement agency.

Careful if traveling to Virginia. Since 2016 they no longer hold reciprocity with permits from North Carolina. They dropped 25 states and ours was included.

 

[427mach1]

He gave you your answer. An officer is only allowed to detain you for a “reasonable” amount of time to conduct his investigation into the original offense and to check the status of your permit. If they lack a “reasonable suspicion” that crime is afoot and if the investigation can’t be done in a “reasonable” time, they have to cut you lose.

CH4 (or methane?), what is a typical reasonable time? I've often wondered how long they can detain someone...

 

[GaryS]

That's no longer correct. They now recognize ever other state's permits. The legislature passed a veto proof bill. That went into effect on 7/1/2016.

Careful if traveling to Virginia. Since 2016 they no longer hold reciprocity with permits from North Carolina. They dropped 25 states and ours was included.

 

[357-RevolverGuy]

That's no longer correct. They now recognize ever other state's permits. The legislature passed a veto proof bill. That went into effect on 7/1/2016.

Thanks I did not know that. These laws keep changing all the time and I can hardly keep up.

 

[stmry]

Actually it appears another cop didn't know the answer to a legitimate question.

 

[M1A]

"Traveler's Guide to the Firearm Laws of the Fifty States".
By J. Scott Kappas. NRA store.
The phone app "CCW".