You're welcome. You are right in that it's not easy. Fortunately, for the most part the laws are changing in the right direction.
Pulled over while carrying on out of state permit
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wittmeba
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There are a couple apps for cell phones/Android that will assist in whether you need to "inform" of carrying and multi state recognition of permits.
CCW – Concealed Carry 50 State - Android Apps on Google Play
CCW – Concealed Carry 50 State - Android Apps on Google Play
cmort666
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Obey the LAW.
If the LAW REQUIRES you to notify, do so.
If it does not, there's no reason to, apart from imminent exposure.
Ohio requires notification, IF AND ONLY IF one is ARMED. Needless to say, some cop push the envelope and demand notification when you are NOT armed.
EVERYBODY should obey the law.
Best license plate ever!
You rock! That is absolutely the coolest personalized plate I have seen. Have ‘vanity’ plates on all my whips...including the motorcycle...but wish I was as creative as you.
Good on ya!
And do get that Corvette soon as the little one gets big enough!
Be safe!
You rock! That is absolutely the coolest personalized plate I have seen. Have ‘vanity’ plates on all my whips...including the motorcycle...but wish I was as creative as you.
Good on ya!
And do get that Corvette soon as the little one gets big enough!
Be safe!
Well, I fail miserably in that department. I drive a lot for work and often in something like a Corvette with a "hello officer" license plate. So, there's that.
I used to get pulled a lot...so put that on there as a friendly greeting, an ice breaker.
My earlier Vette...
These days, I roll in a "dad mobile" but I kept the tag. New Vette coming when my daughter does not need a car seat.
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I was traveling from Oklahoma thru Texas on the way home to New Mexico. I had just crossed into Texas and was 3 MPH over the posted speed limit. A Texas DPS officer, turned out he was a Corporal FTO, stopped me. Before he even asked for my license etc. his first words were, "Sir do you have any weapons in the vehicle?" I answered "Yes officer I do." OK where are they? I have a locked and loaded 1911 on my right hip and multiple long guns and carbines in the back.
THAT got his attention! Oh BTW Officer I have about 2,000 rounds for each of those weapons! Not the brightest remark at the time. He never missed a beat, hand never went to his weapon he only asked "Why do you have all those guns and ammo."
Simple explanation officer I've just completed a week long tactical long range rifle/carbine class in Oklahoma. Of course the handgun is part of the class as well.
Now he asks for my licenses, registration and insurance - he got my NM carry permit at the same time!
Sir Texas has a no tolerance ordinance for speeding, slow down and have a good day! Thank You Officer be safe and WY6.
Having been a Reserve Police Captain I learned one thing real fast...give respect get respect!!
THAT got his attention! Oh BTW Officer I have about 2,000 rounds for each of those weapons! Not the brightest remark at the time. He never missed a beat, hand never went to his weapon he only asked "Why do you have all those guns and ammo."
Simple explanation officer I've just completed a week long tactical long range rifle/carbine class in Oklahoma. Of course the handgun is part of the class as well.
Now he asks for my licenses, registration and insurance - he got my NM carry permit at the same time!
Sir Texas has a no tolerance ordinance for speeding, slow down and have a good day! Thank You Officer be safe and WY6.
Having been a Reserve Police Captain I learned one thing real fast...give respect get respect!!
OP
Put "Canton Ohio cop threatens" into Google and see how the cop verbally abuses and threatens the citizen who is attempting to give notice to the cop as required in Ohio. Use that as a guide to whether you want to give notice about carrying concealed when you are not required to or not being ordered out of your vehicle.
cmort666
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Remember, I live in Ohio. I'm well aware of that despicable farce.
The victim in that case was threatened for TRYING to OBEY the law.
I obey the LAW, nothing more, nothing less.
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Ranger17
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^^ This.
When we lived down in SC and would make the trip back home here to spend time with family, i'd occasionally bring along a couple toys for some "fun on the farm" during get-togethers. As our drive took us thru IL, I'd be the one driver on the hiway not speeding lol. In fact i probably didn't even stop for gas or any pitstops either until I hit WI, esp when bypassing Chicago......
It's amazing, dont do anything to draw attn and one can get by without being hassled.
Doug M.
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In a Terry encounter, the answer is, long enough to confirm or dispel the suspicion of criminality. If the State has a reasonably good LE computer system, and/or adequate training, the added time in a traffic based vehicle stop should be about impossible to discern. Some states have primitive/slow/crummy systems, and some have subpar training, neither of which is excusable.
In this State, WAPA (Washington Association of Prosecuting Attorneys) does a LOT to improve the training on such issues. The change in the quality of training on this and other issues as a result of Pam's (our staff attorney and all around first rate nerd) efforts over the last decade has been truly impressive.
You can go to "http://70.89.120.146/wapa/manuals.html" and look for the 2015 (latest edition) Search and Seizure Manual - it's the fifth one down on the list. Don't print it - put on your desktop if you really want it, as it is a 435 page PDF. (I do, and teach our deputies to do so, too.) For those outside Washington, some of our search and seizure rules will be more restrictive on LE than yours because of our state constitution. That provision (Article 1, section 7) is more protective of privacy than the 4th amendment.
For a good general discussion of Terry issues, go to your favorite search engine and search for "Routledge Doug Mitchell". I know the authors - ugly as can be, but great folks and really smart.
It is designed to be approachable but valid for a broad potential audience, from cops of all ranks, to prosecutors and LE legal advisors and private citizens who want to be more informed. The authors are also available to do day long seminars for the same audience(s). 
If you are really crazy, you can spend the time and money to get a copy of LaFave's search and seizure treatise, but it's several hundred dollars and 6 volumes with the index. The portion on Terry is well over 700 pages in a small font.
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That's what the cruise control is for. Plus driving what looks like an unmarked police car.
fredj338
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There are valid online places to verify reciprocity. Assume the LEO will NOT know & be polite. It will go way further to solving a question that attitude. Kali requires I tell the LEO during any investigatory interaction, including traffic stop, that I am legally carrying with a valid permit. Even if the state I am in does not require this, my permit does, so failure could cost me my permit.
Know the laws of the state you are visiting before you go. Today it is a click or two & you have all the info you need.
Know the laws of the state you are visiting before you go. Today it is a click or two & you have all the info you need.
sigp220.45
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Rosco Shooter
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I have a Michigan Concealed Pistol License, and was stopped by the Arkansas State Police while carrying a loaded concealed pistol. I provided the officer with my Michigan Drivers License, Concealed Pistol License, Registration, and Proof of Insurance. I also informed the officer I was armed, and the location of the pistol. The officer took my materials, and went back to his vehicle. He returned approximately three minutes later, and asked why I was driving so slowly (65 in a 70.) I told the officer my vehicle got 20% better gas mileage at that speed. He laughed and told me to have a nice day. (There is reciprocity between Arkansas and Michigan.)
Whenever I get a comment about ticket quota Isay that quotas are for things like fishing where you have to stop after reaching a certain number. I don’t have any quota so I can keep working all day.
Funny how those with the most to hide/loose will often be the first to call attention to themselves.
Not sure what US vehicle cruise controls are like but here there is quite a variation in quality.
Even when using cruise control, which I do almost always, you need to watch your speed and modify your settings.
In my 2006 Ford runabout car speed will go up and down with undulations in the road. On any decent downhill slope I need to brake to keep speed under control.
Same with our last “for good” car, a 2015 Hyundai Accent.
Our 2017 Mazda CZ3 is almost perfect, mostly no more increase than 3-4 km/h, but there are still a few places you need to watch it.
My 2017 patrol car, and it’s 2015 predecessor, like my Mazda are almost perfect, but there are still down slopes where I shift the transmission into manual mode and set it in 3rd, otherwise I’d pick up 15 km/h by the time I hit the bottom.
Twice in the past few months I have stopped people driving the same model of car as my patrol car and drivers have told me that it’s impossible to keep them at the speed limit, I tell them Ikve been driving this model of car for 15years, since we changed from Ford, that it’s fitted with cruise control and easy to keep at or under the limit.
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