Pure accuracy - XDM or M&P9?

[M29since14]

I was going to post this in the lounge but figured it might get moved. Not sure where it belongs.

For those of you who have owned or have experience with both, do you believe the XDM (standard model, not the ported one) or the M&P9 FS is more accurate?

I am not talking about someone's ability to shoot the gun because they like it or it feels good in their hand, etc. I am speaking of "what the gun will do" - as in fired carefully from a rest, as one would do in testing the gun and/or ammunition?

I realize this is hard to judge unless you have shot several guns of each type. I'm just looking for your opinion. Thanks.

 

[dullh]

1) Don't expect match-grade accuracy from any service pistol.

2) Either pistol will be more accurate than any average shooter.

The focus should be more on skill, less on hardware.

 

[Danno_man]

Both will be similar, but the edge will go to the XDM sin e there is a known issue with the M&P.
Shoot both and see which you like.

Let's say the XDM is slightly more accurate, but you hate the feel of it, is it really worth the miniscule difference in accuracy?

Also you always need a good grip on the XDM, if not, it won't fire, and/or you can't rack the slide. Just something to think about.


Sent from my ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk 2

 

[Rgoodwin]

From a rest they are both accurate enough. As far as factory triggers the XDm is my favorite. However Apex solved that for the M&P.

 

[Rgoodwin]

Grip safety is a non issue. You have to have a good grip on any pistol.

 

[Nakanokalronin]

Ah the grip safety...after owning 3 XD tacticals, 1 XD service, 3 XD subcompacts, an XDM and XDS I've griped them all loose and low enough where it would almost fly from my hand when fired and where I couldn't reach the trigger yet the grip safety was still depressed enough.

As for accuracy, my newer FS9 is a lot more accurate than my original FS9, but my 4.5" XDM 9mm is accurate enough that it would be my first choice for a competition gun over any of my M&Ps.

 

[Sinkhole30]

Both are great service pistols. I personally prefer the M&P over the XD. However, with out a doubt my favorite skriker fired gun is the FNX FNS-9. I find it to be more comfortable, has the best factory trigger of them all, is reliable, and just an all around pleasure to shoot.

 

[OKFC05]

I realize this is hard to judge unless you have shot several guns of each type. I'm just looking for your opinion

I have shot a few and seen a lot shot in matches, both out of the box stock and carefully blueprinted.
IMHO, there is as much difference from one individual gun out of the box to another of either than there is between the brands. I have never experienced the "accuracy issues" with an M&P, but I have seen individual guns that had problems with barrel fits and crowns. I have seen XDM shoot great out of the box, and seen some go back for problems.
I think it is best to pick the gun with the ergonomics you want and be prepared for some work if you don't get a good one out of the box, regardless of brand. Service guns generally produce service gun accuracy, with some variation from gun to gun. YMMV

 

[M29since14]

IMHO, there is as much difference from one individual gun out of the box to another of either than there is between the brands.

About what I expected. Thank you for the comments that addressed my question. I had shot XD models before but not the XDMs. Having heard a certain amount of raving about the XDMs, I was hoping there might be something to it. My experiences with two of them now have been good and mediocre. Nice pistols, I have seen worse, but nothing to "crow" about in the accuracy department.

 

[epj]

For what it's worth, probably very little, I have read that the XDm 5.25 is perhaps a cut above the average service pistol in the accuracy department. I've never seen one, much less fired one. As far as service pistols go, the older gen3 Smiths are probably more accurate on average than any of the current plastic pistols. Just my humble opinion, of course.

 

[M29since14]

The local shop had a 5.25" XDM in .45 caliber. Used gun. I missed the chance to shoot a few rounds as it sold before I got there. The only complaint I heard was the trigger. The guys who run the place shot it and said it shot well enough. They are usually pretty knowledgeable and honest.

My experience with the 3rd Gen. S&Ws is not quite as bad as with the small caliber M&Ps, but I have to say I have never seen a full-size 9mm or .40SW that shot very well. Another member here described the 39s and 59s as "minute-of-pie-plate" guns, or something like that. With the exception of the bigger frame 3rd Gen. models and a couple of compact models, I have found all S&W service-grade autos to fit that description. I've never owned "a good one" yet in the full-size 39xx, 40xx, and 59xx series, but I gather there must be a few of them out there somewhere.

 

[ones]

I have a XDm .40 and a MP9. I can't tell the difference at this point in time.

 

[Harrison]

I have no experience with the XDM. The M&P9 FS I had showed terrible accuracy. New, at 20 yards it would not keep 5 rounds in a bushel basket and that was with factory ammo and off a rest. S&W replaced the barrel and accuracy improved, but was still no better, and in most cases, slightly worse than my 9mm Glocks. In addition, from the factory the trigger was probably the worst I have ever experienced in a full size semi-auto. The M&P9 has a reputation for less than good accuracy. There have been several years of posts about this problem on the forum. I am not the only one to experience it.

 

[Biscut]

I have no experience with the XDM. The M&P9 FS I had showed terrible accuracy. New, at 20 yards it would not keep 5 rounds in a bushel basket and that was with factory ammo and off a rest. S&W replaced the barrel and accuracy improved, but was still no better, and in most cases, slightly worse than my 9mm Glocks. In addition, from the factory the trigger was probably the worst I have ever experienced in a full size semi-auto. The M&P9 has a reputation for less than good accuracy. There have been several years of posts about this problem on the forum. I am not the only one to experience it.

I reload a whole lot of rifle calibers and own/build a lot of AR's, bolt rifles, and levers, along with a few falling blocks. It amazes me how different the handgun and rifle cultures can be.

Many times I read statements to the effect of "and it wasn't accurate with factory loads.." Kills me as anyone who loads for rifle knows most accurate is almost always your load you "find" with the right bullet powder combination.

IDK what kinda accuracy is "accurate" as it's kinda subjective. Glock is a combat pistol but make no mistake they can be extremely accurate as can be Sig's, H&K's, etc... Every barrel is a little different from the rest and quality of the tooling sure makes a difference.

I can't say with authority as I've only had 600 rounds down my 9Pro so far. But it's throwing factory 147gr Fed HP into some very nice 50 shot groups. I'll have to rest it and see what it does controlled from the 25 yard line.

Also, there are $450 pistols that can swallow hundreds of thousands of rounds. They aren't exactly bullseye guns.

 

[Denversteve]

They will both be equally accurate. Pretty simple huh? Almost every contemporary, top tier, handgun will consistently outshoot the owner/shooter. Especially, at any reasonable pistol distance.