Pure Gas, Non Ethanol Fuel

[Tom S.]

Ever see em unload it? Hint: It all comes off one truck pulling a single tanker.

I'm with you on the non ethanol. That's all I'll put in anything but a daily driver. I've had my fill of cleaning furniture finish out of carburetors.

That's why there is 3-4 nozzles on the tankers and the tankers are divided and separate tank covers Usally painted different color on the ground. Sometimes, they just get a load of regular. Regular out sells the other grades 10 times over. That might be what your seeing. But they have separate tanks in the ground and all the tankers have dividers. And the one I go to, I've sit in line and actually watch them off load multiple grades. Using separate nozzles in different tanks.

And here in Tennessee the state, tests the pumps pumps and grades regularly. And if they don't have a state seal on the pump, I won't buy there.

There's a section of major road here with three stations: Mobil, Shell and Speedway. The same guy owns all three, and the gas tanker goes from one to the other to the next. The reason for the three nozzles is the grade of fuel - 87 vs 89 vs 91, not the brand.

 

[stonehorses]

Finding it can be hard, here's a website that will help with that:

Ethanol Free Gas Stations

There's an app for that under Pure gas, or use Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada.

This app is helpful while traveling.

 

[jag312]

My new Honda push mower manual recommends ethanol free gas, or to use an additive. For anybody who wants to learn about the problems of ethanol, there is plenty of information available if you want to search.

Finding it can be hard, here's a website that will help with that:

Ethanol Free Gas Stations

Three places listed for Nevada, and all three are near me.

 

[SW MP15]

I understand

There's a section of major road here with three stations: Mobil, Shell and Speedway. The same guy owns all three, and the gas tanker goes from one to the other to the next. The reason for the three nozzles is the grade of fuel - 87 vs 89 vs 91, not the brand.

I'm very well aware how the trucks work. That's what I was trying to convey. Each truck has dividers carrying different grades of octane. I must have NOT made myself clear??? Ethanol or conventional gas.

In my area there only 2 distribution centers. They both receive fuel off barges on the Cumberland River. I'm well aware, since there only two distribution facilities, that even Kmart will get the same gas a Exxon. Shell does receive its own barges. Shipped to the same two distribution centers. Non Ethanol is also shipped on its own barges. My Brother In Law has worked for one of the distribution centers for the past 25-30 years.

But Non Ethanol tankers only do Non Ethanol stores, Carrying Each grade. Shell only does their stores carrying each grade. But after the Big flood here in Nashville in 2010. It was very hard to get any fuel. The barges couldn't deliver. And allot of the underground tanks at stores and gas stations got flooded. When the rush for fuel lightened up. Our Kroger was one of the few that even had gas being delivered. People would see a tanker going down the road and follow it, hoping it was going to near by store. And if it did, they were texting and putting it on social media! Long lines would form. It was crazy here for about 3 weeks. And I was pumping gas at Kroger and the tanker rolled in, with 5-6 cars following it and I heard a guy working there, yell "what kinda gas you got for us today" the driver said "Exxon".

And I'm VERY shocked no one hasn't mentioned Summer Blend or Winter Blend Gas? I just started hearing about that junk 20 years ago? What kind'a harmful chemicals does it contain??

But I still feel, non ethanol fuel for small engines is the only way to go. I'm not sure If it's the cheap alloy aluminum castings that they now use for carburetors? But I do know It ruins seals and floats, needle valves. Because of the varnish build up of regular fuel. Or maybe it's the chemicals in summer blend or the winter blend gas? But It does harm "most" small engines that get stored or NOT used for any length of time. And even takes a long term toll on small engines even if used frequently.

But if you've never had a carburetors issue in recent years with your small engines. You must be living right! Because I've had to throw away too many weedeaters that still looked BRAND new over the years because of using conventional gas. That would cost more to repair, than a new one costs. If you could even get parts for the Chinese "Craftsman" made junk!

 

[mike from st pete]

There is no excuse or reason for ethanol gas, other than " feel good".
It costs more to make it than the energy you get from it. It raises the price of feed corn, which raises the price of food.
It destroys small and marine engines and does no good for auto engines either.
Instead of increasing the ethanol percentage of fuel, which is in the works, it should be decreased and eliminated.
THAT is just my opinion.

There is less energy in a gallon of ethanol diluted gasoline than a gallon of gasoline (no dilution with ethanol) so milage suffers. When milage suffers consumers buy more diluted gasoline which enriches the 'gas tax' revenue stream along with the corn farmers.

 

[Lee in Quartzsite]

Beginning in 2017 the EPA wants to increase the amount of Ethanol in gas to 15%. Most car engines, marine and small engines will not survive using 15% corn gas. Most people are unaware of the EPA's mandate and the upcoming problems using this gas will create.

EPA seeks public input on increasing ethanol levels for 2017 – The Log

EPA releases proposed rule to set 2017 RFS RVOs | Biomassmagazine.com

 

[soFlaNative]

Figured it would be a cold day down below or the end of days when I find myself agreeing with the UN and Sen. Feinstein (D-CA) when they say that ethanol blended fuels are a waste.
Forbes Welcome

Article is over a year old but since import tariffs and tax breaks have expired Big Ag is holding it's own.

 

[boykinlp]

The one way away from me is also near the lake. I guess boaters also must has to have it? Good idea. Every time I go there, I have to wait in line, because of the long long lines of boaters and lawn care guys fueling up.

I learned the hard way to use it in my boat years ago! "Corn Gas" cost me $2300+ for repairs. Luckily, all of the newer larger chains are carrying the good stuff. It is 30 cents more per gallon......but I pay it. BTW, my boat hold 56 gallons!!!

I also use it in my lawn equipment. My F150 still runs on corn gas.

Here is some interesting reading:

E15 and Engines - Can Ethanol Damage my Engine

I realize it is about E15 gas, but I was told E10 would do basically the same thing.

 

[Bozz10mm]

Texas. Land of oil wells. Can't find a drop of non-ethanol gas anywhere.

 

[Mr.Harry]

Ethanol was destroying my old model 30 jiffy ice auger. 25 years continual reliable use, then back to back to back carbeurator rebuilds and issues. So, I bought a propane burner. But guess what, they're not made to last. Re-built the old jiffy (Tecumseh) one last time couple years ago. Nothing but Tru Fuel in it since then, no issues. Zero. Foresee it outliving me or my reliability to haul it around.

 

[BruceM]

The EPA mandates what types of gasoline can be sold in which areas of the country based on if you have specific smog/ozone problems. In the Milwaukee metro area there is no ethanol free gasoline within about 35 miles of the City limits to my knowledge. You have to leave the "atainment area" in order to buy it. As a side note, I have had zero issues running reformulated gas in lawnmowers, snowblowers, leafblowers or string trimmers. That said, I run all gas out of the carb on the snowblower in spring, empty the leaf blower and trimmer and stabilize everything else which sits over the winter or summer, depending on the equipment.

Bruce

 

[mike from st pete]

Beginning in 2017 the EPA wants to increase the amount of Ethanol in gas to 15%. Most car engines, marine and small engines will not survive using 15% corn gas. Most people are unaware of the EPA's mandate and the upcoming problems using this gas will create.

EPA seeks public input on increasing ethanol levels for 2017 – The Log

EPA releases proposed rule to set 2017 RFS RVOs | Biomassmagazine.com

No cash for these clunkers I'll bet.

 

[pmanton]

I can burn alcohol free gas in my airplane. It is much better for the engine and the atmosphere than the 100 octane "low lead" aviation fuel that I presently burn. Our local gas station that had "real" gas quit selling it a few years ago. Bah Humbug

 

[Just another 22 shooter]

In my native Iowa, the tall corn state, the land of alcohol plants in every other county, I have my choice of ethanol or real gas at just about every station. Ethanol is usually $.40 /gallon cheaper.
I burn both, depending on my mood.

 

[steamloco76]

I live in an area with no non-ethanol gas except the 110 octane race fuel sold in 5 gallon cans for $5.49 per gallon. There was a single real gas station near my home until December when their supplier quit distributing the corn free gas.

 

[Bad_Andy]

Here in KomiFornia, we are stuck with 10%. No "real gas" anywhere, even at the marinas. I have to put StaBil in my boat at each fill up, as the ethanol will eat the rubber and corrode the fittings.

Plus we have "summer blend" and "winter blend" fuels. Something about additives that reduce efficiency but provide less pollution or some other ****. Makes it more difficult (and expensive) when a refinery goes down, as we can't use any of the fuel that the rest of the country uses. And when the refineries change over from summer to winter blends, there is a gas shortage for a few weeks, which gives them a chance to raise gasoline rates.

Our state is really nuts (and fruits too I suppose). I wish we could get rid of the AQMD (Air Quality Management Districts), and the CARB (California Air Resourses Board). Isn't the EPA enough?

Real gas isn't even an option here. It should be.

Plus, our gasoline taxes are the highest in the country. But typical democrats are upset because cars are more fuel efficient and they aren't getting as much gas revenue. They are now thinking of taxing people not on the gas, but on the mileage they drive. (I am sure they won't lower the gas tax either). They are not going to put any devise in my car to track my mileage, and if it comes down to "self reporting" as far as they know, I just drive to church on Sunday and ride my bicycle to work....

 

[johngalt]

I called my representatives about the issue, for whatever good it does.

 

[gmiller0737]

Plenty of stations here in Florida Have Non Ethanol 89 octane (Lots of Boats Here) I use in in My Boat & Atv/Polaris RZR cost is maybe $1 more than 87 octane E10


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk