Question about a Sigma

[RIDE-RED 350r]

Hello. I have never really looked at too many composite handguns before. Mainly a 1911 and wheelgun man. I went to my LGS yesterday just because I had the urge to window shop and came across what I'm 99% sure was a bi-tone Sigma 9mm. (from looking at them on GB). It was used, but looked to be in very good condition. Price on the tag was $295. Seemed cheap enough to me, I ALMOST put a deposit on it. But I ended up not because I really don't know much about the gun. So I wanted to ask you folks:

1: Is it a good piece? Reliable for a truck/tacklebox/general beater/cheap centerfire/possible train the wife with gun?

2: How was the price of $295? See a few new in box on GB for $290 plus $35 shipping.

3: Any glaring issues with these? Reason to stay away or snatch it up?

Thanks very much.

 

[GTbob]

Overpriced for a used Sigma.

 

[ae86fl]

FYI, most of the on-line gun shops sell the latest model SW9VE for $290 shipped. Why bother with the overpriced used sigma.

 

[Wirbech]

If it is a SW9VE then it is way overpriced. you can pick them up all day long for under $300 at academy Sports of any of the other retailers. As for a great gun, I love mine and carry it everyday as my personal protection piece.

 

[Dragon88]

Get a new gun for the same price with warranty intact.

 

[Jim H]

1: Is it a good piece? Reliable for a truck/tacklebox/general beater/cheap centerfire/possible train the wife with gun?

It is a fine gun, it is reliable, and can give you good service. Most of its limitations will be with the shooter... I you, or your wife, can shoot a double action revolver, you can shoot a Sigma.

2: How was the price of $295? See a few new in box on GB for $290 plus $35 shipping.

Either a brand-new gun, or a used gun, will be new to you, and it might be hard to tell the difference in fit and finish if you didn't know where it came from. So, choose who you want to hand the money to...

3: Any glaring issues with these? Reason to stay away or snatch it up?

You will hear that they have 'crappy' triggers. I disagree. They have, by design, a long pull with a pull weight similar to the double action revolver I mentioned in #1. There is much internet chatter about the trigger, but to me it is not a big deal, and should not be an issue unless you make it so.

The preceding observations not to be taken as anything more than the opinions of one member of an internet forum...

 

[daparrothead]

I bought my 9ve at Academy for $279, they put them on sale for $279 pretty regularly.

 

[RIDE-RED 350r]

Thank you all for the replies. They have been most informative and helpful. As i said earlier, I'm not big into the composite pieces and don't know a whole lot about them.

But at some point I wouldn't mind picking up a relatively inexpensive 9mm for more utilitarian purposes. This one kind of caught my eye because of the price. I think I'll probably end up bringing one home at some point, but will probably go new as it seems I can get a new one for about the same price as the used one I found.

Jim H: I'm guessing the long trigger pull is just for that first round???

 

[OKFC05]

Jim H: I'm guessing the long trigger pull is just for that first round???

Oh heck no.
The trigger is the same on every shot.
I use Sigmas for trainers and loaners because they are simple and reliable. I call the triggers "algebra problems" because they are long and hard, but they let me readily see any mistakes or bad habits and correct them. A hair trigger can hide a lot of mistakes that will haunt the shooter forever.

For essentialy the same gun with a lighter trigger, look at the S&W SD.
If you can afford going first class get a S&W M&P Pro.

 

[Jim H]

...Jim H: I'm guessing the long trigger pull is just for that first round???

Oh heck no. The trigger is the same on every shot.

Yeah, what he said. The Sigma trigger was designed to mimic a longer and heavier double action pull of a revolver to make re-training of revolver-carrying Law Enforcement Officers easier. The idea was that you would not have to get used to a Double Action first pull and Single Action follow-up pulls while also learning about magazines, clearing jams, etc.

So, if you want a good training gun, look for a .22 revolver! You get training for shooting basics, good trigger finger exercise and great ammo savings rolled into one.

 

[jtpur]

Great gun but you can get a brand new in the box one for about the same price or even less. Last one I bought was from Academy in the DFW area and I paid $275.00 NIB......was on sale from normal list there of 319

 

[RIDE-RED 350r]

Yeah, what he said. The Sigma trigger was designed to mimic a longer and heavier double action pull of a revolver to make re-training of revolver-carrying Law Enforcement Officers easier. The idea was that you would not have to get used to a Double Action first pull and Single Action follow-up pulls while also learning about magazines, clearing jams, etc.

So, if you want a good training gun, look for a .22 revolver! You get training for shooting basics, good trigger finger exercise and great ammo savings rolled into one.

Yes, I currently have a pair of single action .22s along with my 6" 686. Im trying to get the wife a little more into shooting. She has fired my .357 with full house mags (after testing the waters with .38s first). The main thing she didnt like was the weight of the piece. I was thinking a 9mm auto could possibly be a good route. Something with a little bit of power, but with lesser recoil. Maybe its just me, but I find that autos tend to soak up alot of recoil as the slide cycles as opposed to say a K-frame .357. IDK, my handgun experience as far as owning a wide variety, is relatively limited compared to alot of folks in here. NYS sure doesnt make it easy compared to alot of other states! LOL!