Question about baggage in this airline debacle

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Have the rules changed regarding keeping baggage with passengers? It was my understanding that airlines couldn't knowingly send you on one flight and your bags on a separate flight unless it was to correct a baggage handling screw up.

Today, the news was showing baggage carousel areas with hundreds of bags just sitting their with nobody picking them up. So how did the bags get there with no people? Does the double secret transporter beaming technology only work on baggage?

One Vegas couple currently stuck in Denver said their flight from Vegas to Atlanta was canceled. The airline rerouted them via Denver. However, it all went pear shaped at Denver with multiple yes you're going, no you're not type events one after another. This is since Christmas Eve. However, it appears that their bags somehow made it to Atlanta. WTH?!?!? :confused::confused::confused:

The only way I see that happening is that the bags went on a later flight to ATL from LAS that wasn't canceled. So it seems that the airlines or the airports have no means to get baggage from a canceled flight in time to go with rerouted passengers. Really? What am I missing here?
 
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I've been reading that on top of bad weather one airline in particular is chronically understaffed and is still using outdated software.Probably too late to dump their stock before a congressional investigation and they finally go under though [emoji13]
Wadda mess!!
 
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LVSteve said:
...Really? What am I missing here?
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Your baggage? :rolleyes:
All this makes me grateful that I don't have to travel at Christmas.

Nothing new here, of course. Monty Python sang about it ages ago

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-prhaikK9I[/ame]
I'M SO WORRIED
(Terry Jones / John Du Pre)
Terry Jones & Monty Pytho's Flying Circus, 1980

I'm so worried about what's happening today in the Middle East, you know,
And I'm so worried about the baggage retrieval system they've got at Heathrow.

I'm so worried about the fashions today. I don't think they're good for your feet,
And I'm so worried about the shows on TV that sometimes they want to repeat.

I'm so worried about what's happening today, you know,
And I'm worried about the baggage retrieval system they've got at Heathrow.

I'm so worried about my hair falling out and the state of the world today,
And I'm so worried about being so full of doubt about everything, anyway.

I'm so worried about modern technology.
I'm so worried about all the things that they dump in the sea.
I'm so worriedabout it. Worried about it. Worried. Worried. Worried...
​
 
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I once had my bags not make my flight. We flew from Prague to Paris, then changed planes for the trip to the US. The bags never made it to the US flight, and when we landed in Detroit to clear customs No Bags to check. We were told we couldn't put a tracer on them until we reached our final destination in St Louis. When we got to St Louis there was a small office just for lost luggage. we had the bag stubs, and ID filled out the paperwork and they thought it would be a day or two. Since we live 120 miles form St Louis we drove home and waited. After a week we called and were told they still hadn't found them yet. After another week they did say they found them in Paris, (where we told them they probably were). Then two days later they called and said they had them and would deliver them to us, the following day about noon. When 2PM came around we called then and they checked the driver, and found out he went to some other city in Missouri about 100 further away from us. They got the driver straightened out and he got there about 7:00 that night.

Did you ever look at the coverage for your lost luggage? $300. We added up all the contents of the two bags and replacement value was closer to about $1500,

We now have a sheet of paper with our home address and phone #, the name and address and phone of the people we are staying with, and all the cell phone #'s. Place this on top of the clothes inside the bag.

We just returned from Denver yesterday. Luckily we weren't on SouthWest Airlines. Thousands of flights cancelled over several days around Christmas, and 2500 cancelled Wednesday. We flew United, and the flight was on schedule and arrived on time. We were walking down the ramp to the plane when were told stop, the plane had a flight control problem and we would need another plane. Short story, we had another plane and loaded within 1 hour, and all the correct baggage made it. Good Job United.
 
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...However, it all went pear shaped at Denver with multiple yes you're going, no you're not type events one after another....
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Love that expression. I see these springing up at airports for just such occasions:

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(Or maybe, to use a clever euphemism I saw here recently, it should be called "Charlie Foxtrot's" :eek:
 

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Airlines have been diving toward the crash site since Pan AM and Eastern gave up the ghost.
 
When my folks retired to Bisbee, I'd fly out every year for Christmas. Then after 3 or 4 years Southwest or America West lost my bag and I didn't get it until the day before I left.

After that, I started leaving clothing/toiletries in a foot locker at Dad's and mailing Christmas presents a month or so early. I also after a year or so, got to the point where I never checked baggage going to AZ, only carrying a basic toilet kit and a days change of clothes in my carry on bag.

That worked well, never lost baggage again, it was easier to travel with
only a days clothes, knowing I had everything I needed in my footlocker in Bisbee
 
From LVSteve...
Have the rules changed regarding keeping baggage with passengers? It was my understanding that airlines couldn't knowingly send you on one flight and your bags on a separate flight unless it was to correct a baggage handling screw up.
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I worked baggage handling for some time here in Denver. At first after 9/11 that was the procedure for all flights. It was later changed to only apply to Intl flights leaving Denver. If we knew for a fact that the passenger was onboard we took whatever steps possible to expedite the bag to it's final destination. This was assuming that Denver was the Gateway city of departure. If not then we could only send the bag as far as the city where the passenger was actually leaving the Country from. Otherwise we had to wait for a missing bag file to be created.
 
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Have the rules changed regarding keeping baggage with passengers? It was my understanding that airlines couldn't knowingly send you on one flight and your bags on a separate flight unless it was to correct a baggage handling screw up.

Would seem to be the easy way of doing by keeping baggage with the passengers on the same ride. Maybe some fuzzy math going on.
 
I used to work in the airline industry as a pilot. I can tell you
that an airline is only as good as it's management team. I
hope the Southwest board of directors get their heads out of
their butts and fire the entire management team at SW.
This debacle is going to cost them a lot of money, not to mention
the lost good will from their customers. So sad.
 
My wife and kids were flying and after getting home from seeing them off at the airport I got a phone call from the airline. Seems a bag didn't make it the plane after a change over in Cleveland. They actually asked me if she needed the bag; Told them she wouldn't have packed it if she didn't need it and gave them the destination and hotel info so they could deliver it. She called that evening and said when she reported one of the checked bag missing they told her the system showed it in Cleveland and ASKED HER IF SHE NEEDED IT. She gave them the same answer; wouldn't have packed it if she didn't need it. Someone from the airline finally delivered the bag late that evening.
They were actually hoping the could just hold the bag for her to pick up after the flight home. This was in the early 1990's
 
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