question about M&P Shield

[usaadjuster]

I recently purchased 2 - 9mm shields for my two daughters. I will not give them the guns until they take a gun class and shoot several hundred rounds.
My problem is with both guns. When you pull the -ejector slide- back to load a round the -slide- does not completely lock. So when you pull the trigger, it makes the -slide- lock then you have to pull the trigger again to shoot it. -- Or when the -slide- does not lock, you can push it forward a little to make it lock then being able to fire.
I have a .45 M&P which works great.
Any ideas?
Concerned father

 

[1bdvet]

I really don't understand what you are trying to say.

I have the Shield, and when I insert magazine I pull back the slide to load round, and fire away till it's empty, then the slide locks back till I replace with another loaded mag. and you release by pulling back the slide to load another round for firing.
Does this help, I hope.

 

[gregm784]

Are you 'riding the slide' forward? You should be pulling it all the way back, the letting it slam forward under it's own spring pressure. Give that a shot.

 

[gregm784]

This may help.

Riding the Slide is BAD - YouTube

 

[Shielded]

I'm like Lubell, I don't fully understand your question, however I do think it's great that your doing this for your daughters, especially the training. Don't worry we'll get it figured out!

 

[usaadjuster]

Thanks for the replies guys and sorry for not knowing just the right lingo. Let me try this. -- Shield with empty chamber and slide locked in. Loaded magazine in gun. When I pull the slide back to load a round - then release the slide - the spring pulls it forward but not to the point where it locks. I have to push the slide forward approx. 1/8th inch to get it to lock. -- does this on both guns. Maybe more break in time will fix this but I hate for the girls - 1st gun - then having to worry if it's locked and will shoot or not shoot. Any suggestions???

 

[usaadjuster]

After my last response I got the guns to see if even I was riding the slide. I was -- problem solved. -- Thanks Greg for the youtube link, I will show this to the girls so they can see how to properly pull the slide with authority and not ride it. Again, thanks all!!

 

[Shielded]

I knew this forum would get you the answer! The lingo comes in time for everybody. Locking into Battery is what you were referring to. This should get better a the guns break-in. Enjoy!

 

[Droid]

After my last response I got the guns to see if even I was riding the slide. I was -- problem solved. -- Thanks Greg for the youtube link, I will show this to the girls so they can see how to properly pull the slide with authority and not ride it. Again, thanks all!!

I was doing the same thing when my shield was new. It will get better with time. I've done tons of dry fire practice and that has helped it tremendously.
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[gnystrom]

Good for you for teaching your girls to shoot. You choose a great gun. I would get them into a firearms class to get them the basics that we, (all dads) miss. If they show interest and you have the funds, take an advanced firearms training class, gunsite, frontsight, etc. Their overall life confidence will soar and you won't have to worry about them going out on a date.

 

[coachpan]

Very smart to train the girls. Everyone should take an NRA Basic Shooting class.

 

[Houdini1953]

Have you broken down the guns and given them a good cleaning as per page 30 of the Shield owners manual, this is due to preservatives and oils placed on the guns at the factory so clean them well and make sure you read page 24 as it shows the 7 places that need lubrication mostly the slide and rails it rides on!

 

[laphil47]

I had the same issue, especially when my wife shot it. I do think the slide is being impeded when loading manually and I am going to try to see if locking it back and using slide release solve this problem. I don't recall it happening when actually firing, but could have. That would be a different type of problem. From what I've read/seen this should improve with usage but using the proper technique to load the first round should help.

 

[mudman bob]

My hat's off to you for wanting the girls to get training as well.
I would make it a family affair and train with them so everyone is on the same page.
You have made wise choices on the Shield, training, and this forum.
Congratulations!

 

[Mr. P]

For their first gun did you consider a good revolver,
my wife wanted a semi-auto but after a little training and some good advice decided on a S&W featherweight 5 shot .38 special, just because of the simplicity, (i.g. point and shoot)

now she wants the semi -- might get her a shield

P

 

[arn357]

Lingo will come as another poster stated. not being a wiseass but your quote reworded.

Gun "made safe", any firearm, rifle, shotgun, pistol or revolver= Action locked opened (slide locked back not "in" for pistols, rifles bolt action is open, shotgun action is open and revolver cylinder is open and chamber cleared and no magazine nor clip (M1 Garand and simliar rifles) inserted in firearm.

"When you "rack" the slide to chamber a round or to clear a jam." In your case your case where the pistol failed to go into full battery (full lockup) this is called a "stovepipe", cuz the pistol isn't in full battery, part of your barrel is exposed and will NOT fire upon pressing the trigger fully to the rear.

Thanks for the replies guys and sorry for not knowing just the right lingo. Let me try this. -- Shield with empty chamber and slide locked in. Loaded magazine in gun. When I pull the slide back to load a round - then release the slide - the spring pulls it forward but not to the point where it locks. I have to push the slide forward approx. 1/8th inch to get it to lock. -- does this on both guns. Maybe more break in time will fix this but I hate for the girls - 1st gun - then having to worry if it's locked and will shoot or not shoot. Any suggestions???