Question for those who own a P365 and Shield

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Is there any practical difference in the width of these two pistols for AIWB, IWB, or OWB concealed carry? The manufacturer's specifications state the SIG P365 is 1" wide while the Shield is .95". That's not much, but if that is the width of the controls only, perhaps the rest of the grip and/or slide have a more noticeable difference. I have never had these guns in my hands at the same time so I'm curious. I also never tried to carry the P365 and it's been a long time since I carried the Shield. I used to have the latter about five years ago, so I'm thinking about getting a new one, but I'm looking for as many reasons not to buy the P365 as possible. ;)
 
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I've owned both the 9mm and .45 PC shields but traded them both off for a P365 and a Smith model 41 and never looked back. Have had my 365 for a year now and I've never had a malf. 250+ rounds through it. Whats not to like about a gun smaller than the Shield with 10-12 or even 15 round mag. And I can shoot it better than I ever could the Shield. SIG has addressed the early problems. And frankly I think half the complaints are from trolls that wont open there eyes to a better mousetrap. Just my 2 cents. And with that said I will buy a .380 EZ Shield PC when they come out ( for the Wife )
 
I've owned both the 9mm and .45 PC shields but traded them both off for a P365 and a Smith model 41 and never looked back. Have had my 365 for a year now and I've never had a malf. 250+ rounds through it. Whats not to like about a gun smaller than the Shield with 10-12 or even 15 round mag. And I can shoot it better than I ever could the Shield. SIG has addressed the early problems. And frankly I think half the complaints are from trolls that wont open there eyes to a better mousetrap. Just my 2 cents. And with that said I will buy a .380 EZ Shield PC when they come out ( for the Wife )

I'm sure you're right about the trolls, but with all due respect, 250+ rounds over the last year isn't really much to go on. Most of the problems don't surface until over a thousand rounds or so (likely depending on the type of ammunition going through the gun as well as how the tolerances of the gun itself have stacked). Nonetheless, thanks for letting me know and I hope she continues running faithfully for you. How is that Model 41. I bet she's a beut!
 
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I have almost 800 through my first 365 and about 300 through my second; both have been flawless with reloads, various makes of factory and 115 and 124
 
I have had a .9mm shield since early on and love it. Some find it a little skinny for them. I like the size. I do not like to go too small. I have handled a Sig 365 several times but do not own one. They have a really nice trigger and sights out of the box. They feel a little small in the girth for my hand. People say that they shoot like a much bigger gun.
 
I hate to disagree, but most problems show up in the first 50 rounds, in my experience.

I guess we would have to count, but I have heard many stories of problems surfacing at or near a thousand rounds. The Military Arms Channel is just one example (and I think he had problems with more than one).

If it isn't when most problems occur, it is certainly when some of them do, and it just takes one serious problem. In the case of the MAC, I believe it was the trigger return spring if my memory serves me correctly (i.e.his trigger went dead approaching a thousand rounds).

I heard striker tips breaking was another issue that showed up later (but that's based on third-hand information). Certainly the striker drag was something that showed early on, as was some reliability issues.

Of course a lot of the stories I am recollecting occured many months ago before I became interested in a small thin pistol again (other than my .380), so I can't remember exactly how many reviews and posts I've read mentioning failures that occurred later in life, but the point is that they do, and still do, as plenty of stories are circulating even now (this year). And although I have heard of at least one or two people with a few thousand rounds, by and large I don't see huge round counts yet.

Now contrast that with the release of the Smith & Wesson Shield back in 2012. This is a comparable debut because both pistols took the market by storm when they were introduced. It wasn't all that long before we were getting reports from James Yeager, for example, that he had 10,000 rounds through his Shield without a single hiccup as he loaned it in classes, and that was many years go. Since then professionals with the ability to but many rounds through a gun have put the Shield through its paces earning it an outstanding reputation for reliability.

There were some mild complaints of the magazine release of the M1.0 getting inadvertently ejected with the dominant hand crushing the grip (I even experienced this on mine), others complained about the trigger (e.g. its reset), but nothing major stuck out even though EVERY pistol has problems at some point, especially during the beginning.

In fact, over the last year or so I read an old New York Times article from the 1980's or early 1990's (I can't remember exactly), where the FBI reported that when testing Glock pistols they discovered a drop safety issue where the guns inadvertently fired. That was the first I heard of that, and I read an entire book dedicated to the development history of that gun.

In fact, I don't think I am going on a limb when I say that I have heard more complaints about the P365's reliability in the time it has been out than all of the problems reported about the Shield since 2012 combined! That's over seven years! And as you know, until the P365 came out and started at least addressing some or most of these issues, the Shield had become one of the best selling guns, sometimes the best selling gun, and still is. Furthermore, I can't remember a gun that ever debuted with as much praise for its design. That magazine was the long-awaited "game changer", so more than any other gun I can remember people really wanted to love this gun. Remember, when the Shield came out, many people questioned the need for such a gun (due to its size). In fact, when I sold my Shield, I stopped carrying single stacks (I had tested five all together). I felt my G26 was thin enough (that is until recently when I started revisiting appendix carry again).

Anyway, I don't own a Shield anymore, so I don't have a dog in the fight. I sold mine many years ago. In fact, I sold my last Smith & Wesson last year after owning five M&P's over the last 13-14 years. Moreover, one of my current carry guns, and my favorite one at that, is my SIG P229, so I am not SIG bashing either. The whole point of this post was to get some help talking me out of a P365 because my brain tells me it is in terrible need of establishing a reliable track record, but my heart really wants to throw caution into the wind to try it.

That said, I recently watched a video were the person laid out on a table the top five selling guns at his gun store. In the picture it looks to me as if maybe the Shield and P365 aren't as close in width as others suggest. It certainly appears to be no significant difference in the slide, but looking from this angle I am starting to question it (thinness being one of the questions I posited here). What do you and others think? Is it my imagination? I don't think it's the camera angle as the Shield is technically closer to the lens. I don't think it is a dealbreaking difference, but I am looking for an option that is significantly thinner than my Beretta PX4 Storm Compact otherwise I have no need to give up 16 rounds for even a P365. [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZlocIa2iYI[/ame]
 

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The Shield is an excellent weapon. I owned 2 over the years but I eventually gravitated to the Glock 43 and a P365. They seem to have worked out the issues, I saw a post where someone had between 10,000-15,000 rounds through their P365.

The shield is well made, shoots like a much bigger gun, and is still probably the best buy out there.

That said I’m saving for a G43X because I’m still a Glock guy at heart.

Both are great guns, pick what you want and I believe you’ll be OK.


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I've carried and shot the Shield 9mm for years but decided to give the Sig 365 a run. I've shot and carried it for the past six months. I shoot both guns equally well and happy with the performance of each but recently started carrying the Shield again.

For me the Sig may shoot like a larger gun but it feels a bit undersized in my hands whereas the Shield feels more comfortable and better balanced.

I use the extended magazines with each and I also carry concealed inside the waistband (appendix carry) using the Kydex style holsters.
Again, for me the Shield rides better, flatter and tends to feel more stable. The Sig 365 wobbles a little more; feeling less stable when walking or moving around.

Bottom line, both are great pistols but it's all about what works better for each individual. Good luck.....
 
I have a PC Shield .45 and a P365 (among others). The P365 is easier to carry and easier to shoot (for me, with medium hands).

I have 1330 rounds through the P365 with only issue a few slide not locking back when new until I learned to keep my thumb off the slide lock while shooting. 115g, 124g, 147g, 150g, mix of FMJ, TMJ, and JHP...oh and some Hornady FTX. Rest a mix of Speer, Federal, Sig P365 branded.

493 rounds through the PC Shield .45. When new, one of the magazines got stuck and took some finagling to get it released, and the last range trip one round failed to feed. Same as P365, all name brand quality ammo (Speer, Federal, Winchester WWII Ball Commemorative, FMJ, TMJ, HST, Gold Dot, Hydra-Shok).

I am comfortable carrying either. Buy your P365, you won’t regret it.
 
I’m a big shield advocate had several in the past with safety without safety the 9mm and the 45 no complain other than the hinge trigger. Also had a few glock 43.

I just got the p365 haven’t shoot the gun yet but it feels great on my hands with much better ergo and def better trigger than the shield, IMO the shield feels top heavy. I can get a full grip on the p365 with the pinky extended magazine and it holds 10 rounds it is amazing.


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