I'm looking at a S&W 686 +P, 7 shot cylinder. Is there a disadvantage, strength wise, with the 7 shot cylinder over the 6 shot?
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I'm looking at a S&W 686 +P, 7 shot cylinder. Is there a disadvantage, strength wise, with the 7 shot cylinder over the 6 shot?
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If you mean the Model 686 Plus Revolver - 4", 7-Shot, the "P" stands for "Plus" not "+P" and has nothing to do with ammunition pressure.
It just means it has one more hole in the cylinder.
The gun is proof tested for full-power SAAMI .357 specifications. There is no such thing as a .357 +P SAAMI pressure standard.
http://www.handloads.com/misc/saami.htm
It just means it has one more hole in the cylinder.
The gun is proof tested for full-power SAAMI .357 specifications. There is no such thing as a .357 +P SAAMI pressure standard.
http://www.handloads.com/misc/saami.htm
The 7-shot cylinder may actually be "stronger" than the 6-shot, due to the placement of the stop notches between the chambers.
The only "issue" I've ever had with the 7-shot L-frames is a tendency to go out of time sooner than a 6-shot, when fired rapidly over a period of time. Regards 18DAI.
The only "issue" I've ever had with the 7-shot L-frames is a tendency to go out of time sooner than a 6-shot, when fired rapidly over a period of time. Regards 18DAI.
For the very small difference in price, the 7th shot can sure come in handy at times.
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One of the big shots at S&W, Herb Belin told me that the 7 shot cylinder is stronger because the locking notches are between charge holes in the thickest part of the steel rather than over the thinnest part of the charge hole as in the 6 shot version.
18DAI said: The 7-shot cylinder may actually be "stronger" than the 6-shot, due to the placement of the stop notches between the chambers.
I agree. As to them getting out of time faster than the six-round version, 18DAI must have fired a bunch of rounds from his. I've fired about 1500 rounds (mostly range loads) from mine in the two years I've owned it, and no timing problems -- no problems of any kind.
Cordially, Jack
I agree. As to them getting out of time faster than the six-round version, 18DAI must have fired a bunch of rounds from his. I've fired about 1500 rounds (mostly range loads) from mine in the two years I've owned it, and no timing problems -- no problems of any kind.
Cordially, Jack
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In the four years I've had my only 686+, a 5" h-l 'Stocking Dealer Exclusive', I've used it for SPC and lots of fun shooting. It's diet is mainly .38-ish level loads in .357 Magnum cases. Thousands of rounds later, it's as tight as it was new. I doubt normal use in one's typical lifespan would make a 686+ wear out, timing wise, faster than a standard 686.
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Actually my 686-4+ is still locking up tight. I got it last spring and only have around 800 rounds through it.
The "problem" 7-shot L-frame, for me, is my PC 586-5 pre lock L-comp. It went out of time very quickly. I shot it quite a bit, and very quickly most of the time. My 0.02 Regards 18DAI.
The "problem" 7-shot L-frame, for me, is my PC 586-5 pre lock L-comp. It went out of time very quickly. I shot it quite a bit, and very quickly most of the time. My 0.02 Regards 18DAI.
I have a 4" 686+ and a 586 L-comp. I have put 3000 rounds of factory .38 & .357 through the 686 with no problems. Both are very accurate revolvers with nice balance. Chop
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I have a 686-4 with a 4-inch barrel, 686-6 with 8-inch barrel, and a PC 586 L-Comp. Have put thousands of mostly 38 Special rounds through them without any problems. The L-frame is perfection.
