Rack the slide deterrent? True Story

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My brother is the owner of a pawn shop. He related this story to me today. The sequence of events was put together after the fact.

Three men came in the pawn shop. One came to the counter. One came about halfway between the door and the counter. One stayed just inside the door. About that time, a customer handed a pump shotgun he wanted to trade to the "gun guy" behind the counter at the gun section in the back of the store. The gun salesman racked the slide on the pump to check to make sure it was empty. The three men gathered at the door, hesitated a few seconds, and quickly left. The phone rang. "This is 9-1-1, is your store being robbed? We have a report of an armed robbery in progress." The gun salesman had answered the phone, said "No, I don't think so." The 911 operator told him to hold on, that police were on the way. Almost immediately, they heard the sirens and a couple of cars pulled up, officers ran in the store with guns drawn. The thugs, of course, were gone. They were picked up later in the area and were held on some outstanding warrants.

What had happened was that a clerk in a convenience store across the street had overheard the thugs discussing their intent to rob the pawn shop. When he/she saw them cross the street to the shop, he/she called 911. It was, according to the gun salesman, just pure dumb luck that he racked the slide on the pump just as they were setting up for the robbery. Apparently, they heard the action work, looked up and saw the salesperson with the shotgun in his hands, and decided to hunt an easier target. No one who worked in the store had any suspicions about what was happening until they got the call from the police. The gun salesman said he saw the men hurriedly leave the store, but didn't think anything about it until the police explained what had happened.

Incidentally, the convenience store across the street was the scene of an attempted armed robbery about a year ago. An armed customer shot one of the robbers who turned toward him with a handgun he had been pointing at the cashier. Even though the customer didn't have a carry permit, he wasn't charged. Police were quoted in the paper as saying it was definitely a good shoot, and chose not to bring any charges.
 
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Unless the new health care plan allows workman's comp for bad guys they generally want no part of anything resembling a fair fight.

Unless you're in a ring, fighting someone in your weight class, with a referee present making sure that both you and your opponent are obeying the Marquess of Queensberry rules - You are NOT in a fair fight.
Since you aren't --- Well......
 
Unless you're in a ring, fighting someone in your weight class, with a referee present making sure that both you and your opponent are obeying the Marquess of Queensberry rules - You are NOT in a fair fight.
Since you aren't --- Well......

If you're in a fair fight your tactics ....ummm... "need a little fine tuning." ;)
 
Years back, my dad had a friend who owned a liquor store and he gave him a baton and police hat to leave on the counter. When sketchy guys would come in and regard the hat and baton, his friend would say, "hey, even cops use the bathroom." He never got robbed...:)

On a related note, a friend of mine would always drape his expensive riding jacket over the handlebars of his Electra Glide when going inside . . .

I just shook my head in disbelief and said; "What in the world makes you think that your jacket is going to still be there when we leave?"

He just grinned and said: "Look at the seat."

He always placed a .45acp round on the seat, too! :D

To my knowledge, he never had a jacket or helmet stolen.
 
That was pure luck. It's also an example of pretty darned poor situational awareness on the part of the pawn shop staff, they should have spotted the "setup" a mile off. Hopefully the responding police had a bit of a talk with them about that.

I doubt the elapsed time from the time the miscreants entered the store until they left was 15 seconds. Yes, they should have spotted it, but when you are dealing with customers, it isn't easy to be as vigilant as one should be.

My brother and I discussed the fact that somebody would have to be an idiot to try to rob the store. Probably three or four male employees are armed, and there are multiple loaded shotguns available to the the employees behind the counters in the gun section and archery section of the shop. The employees are instructed to cooperate with armed robbers and to give them what they want as long as they aren't acting too aggressively or showing signs of instability or craziness. If one were to begin firing, he would probably feel the Wrath of God come down on him in a hurry. It isn't unusual for multiple LEOs to be in the store. The same is true of most pawn shops and gun shops Down South. Although they don't do it in my brother's store, it isn't unusual to see the employees open-carrying. There is a shop a mile or so from my brother's shop where all the employees carry visible semi-automatics. I also know of a liquor store in MaConGA (pronounced Muh-CON-Ga;)) where the proprieter and his wife open carry. There are signs on the door warning customers not to come in with a hoodie or ski-mask. I don't go to a package store over 5 or 6 times a year, but when I do I try to use that one. I feel safer.
 
Y'all in Memphis will probably remember my LGS - East Park Hardware.
The hardware store was in the front and the gun store in the back.
A nice old couple ran the gun store and their son ran the hardware section.
To get from the gun store part to the outside you had to go through a maze in the hardware store - No straight shot. Kind like a gauntlet - I always thought that it was a GREAT idea!
 
My wife and I were married in August of 1979. By 8-10 we were in New Orleans so that I could enroll in seminary. That first year was a hoot. We lived in a ground floor apartment in a high crime area. In the first year there were two attempts to break into our apartment through the bedroom window. In each instance, my wife stepped aside while I loaded the pump shotgun and used it to run the intruders off. In the second year, someone stole my 66 Mustang. Only 30 days later, I found it outside a bar on St. Roch Street. A friend and I went back to retrieve it. I had the 870 with me. Some folks from inside the bar came out to object to my getting the car. Amazing what a 12 ga. pump shotgun can do to calm a bunch of people down when the action is worked loudly. Car is long gone. Still have the shotgun.
 
I don't know about the chambering a pump shotgun but can tell you that leveling a SXS shotgun on three thugs armed with a tire iron and chunk of chain will stop them in their tracks. I watched my buddy do that when we were only 16 and about to get our young butts kicked had he not been planning on pheasant hunting.
They climbed back into their truck and drove off.
 
It definately works on one of my dogs. She has never been abused, but she is deathly afraid of guns. If I go out side with a shotgun and rack the slide, she takes off fast for an old chicken house that I keep aluminum cans in. We call it Cansas. Same thing when you chamber a round in an automatic pistol...gone to Cansas. Same if you cock a revolver, and if you do happen to shoot she's gone to Can. for a long time. So I would say it would be a deterrent to a bad guy, maybe.
Peace,
Gordon.
 
One night I got a call from my mom. She said some one was out back of the house and braking into her shed. :eek: At that time I only live 2 miles away so off I go. Told her to stand near the front door and let me in when I got there. I went straight through the house to my dads gun cabinet. Grabbed the 870 and stuffed her full. By the time I got to the back of the house, the guy had broken the storm door open and was trying to pry open the back door. All I had to do was "Rack the 870" and he slammed the storm door and was heading across the corn field out back as fast as a rabbit. :D
 
As Al Capone is reputed to have said, "You get far more accomplished with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone."

My wife and I were married in August of 1979. By 8-10 we were in New Orleans so that I could enroll in seminary. That first year was a hoot. We lived in a ground floor apartment in a high crime area. In the first year there were two attempts to break into our apartment through the bedroom window. In each instance, my wife stepped aside while I loaded the pump shotgun and used it to run the intruders off. In the second year, someone stole my 66 Mustang. Only 30 days later, I found it outside a bar on St. Roch Street. A friend and I went back to retrieve it. I had the 870 with me. Some folks from inside the bar came out to object to my getting the car. Amazing what a 12 ga. pump shotgun can do to calm a bunch of people down when the action is worked loudly. Car is long gone. Still have the shotgun.
 
Some folks are happy with a side by side shotgun for home defense. I wouldn't care to test their ability to use it.
I'm very happy with a "side-by-each."

For one thing, I'm not hung up on magazine capacity.
A sxs has been considered a very viable weapon for
"repelling boarders" for 150+ years, and there is no
good reason it isn't viable now.

I grew up shooting quail and doves with a Parker 20
gauge. I can dump the empties and reload while marking downed
birds, watching the dogs, spotting where the singles land,
all the while trotting up to the next dog on point, in a
couple of seconds.

I'm as comfortable with a sxs shotgun as I am with a S&W
revolver, a lever action rifle, or a 1911 pistol.
 
First person that develops an app for the iphone that makes that sound on command is gonna get rich.

Ed

There already is. Go to the app store on your cell phone and
type in Shotgun Sounds. There are several apps there.

Stu
 
Unless you're in a ring, fighting someone in your weight class, with a referee present making sure that both you and your opponent are obeying the Marquess of Queensberry rules - You are NOT in a fair fight.
Since you aren't --- Well......

My Dad once told me, there is no such thing as a fair fight, do whatever it takes to win. Of course this does not apply to school yard fights but good advice for the real world. You gotta love those WW II vets!
 
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