Rapid loader
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JeffF64
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This might be my problem always hold the mags like I used to do in Army with M4/16 mags. Will try to do this, so does it matter the orientation of mag/ammo facing you, ie:face mag so inserting primer of round toward you then bullet would be facing away? Or doesn't matter?
Kayback
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I'm not seeing the convenience though. How is it more convenient? It is an extra system to do something your fingers can do in seconds. And from the scant info we have, possibly a flawed system.
I can load a magazine in 40 seconds timed. That's pretty hard to beat. I managed to get it down to about 32 seconds if the rounds are all in the correct orientation in my hand. I PERSONALLY don't see much advantage in this system.
IF it was motorized and did it in 10 seconds, sure.
Jeff 64, I have not noticed a difference with orientation of the magazine. Your body mechanic may dictate something different from mine though.
KBK
I can load a magazine in 40 seconds timed. That's pretty hard to beat. I managed to get it down to about 32 seconds if the rounds are all in the correct orientation in my hand. I PERSONALLY don't see much advantage in this system.
IF it was motorized and did it in 10 seconds, sure.
Jeff 64, I have not noticed a difference with orientation of the magazine. Your body mechanic may dictate something different from mine though.
KBK
DelFuego
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I have a loader for my Ruger MKIII 22/45 that I throw about 100 rounds into that really speeds up the loading process and costs about $25.
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Majorlk
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Yea, you can't do it that way.
I do it facing the side of the magazine and insert from the left. It's more natural on the wrist that way. Actually, the best way to do it is what's more comfortable for you.
Majorlk
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To each his own. Holding a bunch of ammo in my hand and punching it in just doesn't seem to work for me. Are you holding the button down and just dropping them in?
Majorlk
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That's Ruger pistol mags.
I can load any of my various pistol mags in under 15 seconds, including 9mm and .40 S&W. Love my UpLulu!
JeffF64
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Thanks all, will give these ways a try next time. I cannot do the hold a bunch in my hand either, used to with 5.56 but not these little suckers, drop them all over when I tried it that way. Guess I need to shoot more so I have to practice loading more thankfully I go to a friends house to shoot so no cost to me for how long I am there.
Kayback
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Nope, doing it exactly like stated above. The mag is on the table/floor/bench in my left hand facing my right, the thumb and forefinger pull down the tabs. My right hand thumb and forefinger feed the rounds into the mag one at a time, with the left hand pulling the tab down just enough to let one in.
Each round staggered, full to capacity. I could do a video I suppose, but that'll only be later tonight. All my mags are now loaded
KBK
Each round staggered, full to capacity. I could do a video I suppose, but that'll only be later tonight. All my mags are now loaded
KBK
Maddmax
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If you have time,I'd like to know why only three in that amount of time. Please keep us posted on your outcome.
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When I load a magazine my only requirement is that the pointy end of the round is facing in some manor away from me.
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Flawed system aside, the convenience is in the process, not so much for me, but mostly for my Mom. I'm not in any hurry. She is not in any hurry. If we can drop some rounds in a hopper, press the trigger on the device and it correctly staggers the rounds, then to us that's convenience. Especially for her.
The last time we were at the table loading magazines, she was 20 rounds done, when she looked up and said, "How much is that speed loader"? To me, it was a priceless moment.
It's great that you can load a magazine in about 32 seconds, but unless there is a magazine loading contest that I'm not aware of, I don't see the point. If I had to load a magazine in 32 seconds, I would think that either I don't have enough magazines or I have too much ammo.
What about Skunk's tube drop system?
There's no pleasure in that.
Maddmax
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I just read his post. It "looks" like it's just starting to get into production and things are coming together. "Might" be about a month off ??? His post said something about Beta testers also giving it a QC test and make sure it works like expected (as his prototype),before he turns it loose. Good idea from what I'm seeing here. Make sure it works first in the field,then start selling it. From what I read,the cost looks much better too and is a much simpler design. He did have a working proto type he had posted in his thread.
Maddmax
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As for loading the mags by hand. I hold it in my left hand,primer side in my palm,thumb and first finger on the tabs. I slowly ease the tab down as I insert a round primer first,taking up the spring pressure with my left two fingers as I slide the round in twisting and pushing it to the back of the mag and down in place always keeping slight pressure on the round. Just keep repeating until full. I have a slight cant off to the left with the mag. I can keep a few extra rounds in my right hand as I'm feeding. That lets me re-adjust my left hand as I go down the back of the mag. Toward the bottom I set it on a table,stomach or leg if need be to finish off the last ones. They stay stagered reasonable well. The trick is keeping light pressure on the rounds as they are being fed.
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MarkBrumbaugh
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Out f hundreds of actuation s, only three bullets did not jam in the speed loader.
my video review of rapid loader
Here is my video using the rapid loader. My brother just received it. You will want to read the short directions. In the video I show using the plunger hold back screw while loading the hopper. With practice I think you can skip that step and just hold the loading plunger up. The video shows only my third time using the loader. You definitely want to let the plunger go all the way down (do not short stroke the plunger) It takes a fair amount of force to make it work and you want to keep a cadence going. I think it will get easier the more I use it. I only have one magazine right now so need to load often. Here is the video link. I have no affiliation with designer, just a customer a little over $100with shipping. I believe it will be useful, others may not feel it will be worth the cost, but it does work. rapid loader M&P 15-22 - YouTube
EDIT: After using (or attempting to use) the rapid loader we have come to the conclusion it is not ready for prime time. It is too difficult to operate reliably. You would not be able to hand a magazine, rounds and the loader to someone at the range and have them load a magazine. Just to difficult and frustrating to use. It operates smoothly with no magazine and rounds inserted. But trying to load rounds difficult most of the time. After several attempts my finger is sore from working the small plunger. Anyway.....
Here is my video using the rapid loader. My brother just received it. You will want to read the short directions. In the video I show using the plunger hold back screw while loading the hopper. With practice I think you can skip that step and just hold the loading plunger up. The video shows only my third time using the loader. You definitely want to let the plunger go all the way down (do not short stroke the plunger) It takes a fair amount of force to make it work and you want to keep a cadence going. I think it will get easier the more I use it. I only have one magazine right now so need to load often. Here is the video link. I have no affiliation with designer, just a customer a little over $100with shipping. I believe it will be useful, others may not feel it will be worth the cost, but it does work. rapid loader M&P 15-22 - YouTube
EDIT: After using (or attempting to use) the rapid loader we have come to the conclusion it is not ready for prime time. It is too difficult to operate reliably. You would not be able to hand a magazine, rounds and the loader to someone at the range and have them load a magazine. Just to difficult and frustrating to use. It operates smoothly with no magazine and rounds inserted. But trying to load rounds difficult most of the time. After several attempts my finger is sore from working the small plunger. Anyway.....
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Kayback
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Cool. Thanks. Still looks like more time and effort than doing it normally.
But if you're happy with it, rock on.
KBK
But if you're happy with it, rock on.
KBK
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QuiQNeZZ
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It looks like the design could benefit from a pistol grip and trigger mechanism to make the process a little easier. Also seems like a substantial amount of pressure is being put into pushing in the metal "trigger" which seems could also start messing with your finger. Should probably have a rubber cover over it.
Or another idea would be to work in Squeeze plier type grips attached to the "trigger" so that you can use your whole hand to squeeze each round into the mag. Or something like those staple guns, in form factor that is.
Or another idea would be to work in Squeeze plier type grips attached to the "trigger" so that you can use your whole hand to squeeze each round into the mag. Or something like those staple guns, in form factor that is.
Maddmax
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"Sounds like a LOT of grinding going on. Almost like grinding coffee beans into grounds. What do the bullets look like when you empty the mag out on the table ? For a $100. shipped,not thinking it's a gotta have so far...
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