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I rotate a couple of M&P Shields, both have no thumb safety. Chambered, ready to fire. Same as any revolver I might decide to carry. Same as my Bodyguard if I decide to throw it in my pocket.
If you don't touch the trigger till you're ready to fire, it isn't gonna fire itself.
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If you don't touch the trigger till you're ready to fire, it isn't gonna fire itself.
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jyork08854
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My Shield is in my pocket holster with full magazine and one in the chamber. My full size M&P is in the night stand tabletop safe with full magazine, one in the chamber sitting next to 2 full additional 17 round magazines.
wingriderz
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Every one of my carries 32, .380,.38, 9mm,.40, 45. All in holsters all fully loaded. None since 1980 have never "JUST WENT OFF "
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SAFireman
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Ok, so here is my regular plan-
Revolver - fully loaded, usually speed loader and/or strips nearby.
1911 - Fully loaded, cocked, locked, holstered. Several spare mags close at hand.
Sig DA/SA - Fully loaded, de-cocked, one in the chamber, spare mags close at hand
Pump Shotgun - Full tube, empty chamber (truck or house)
Double barrel shotgun - Not really used for SD/HD purposes - empty until ready to shoot.
Mag fed AR, M1A, Mini-14 - Loaded mag, empty chamber. Mag inserted if carried in vehicle or slung, mag separate if at home.
Bolt guns - unloaded until ready to use (not for HD/SD)
Magazine fed bolt guns - (for critter defense) loaded mag separate from rifle.
There is no answer to fit everyone. Know 100% how your guns work. Always handle them as if they were loaded!
My SD/HD guns are ready to go RIGHT DANG NOW, not later.
Revolver - fully loaded, usually speed loader and/or strips nearby.
1911 - Fully loaded, cocked, locked, holstered. Several spare mags close at hand.
Sig DA/SA - Fully loaded, de-cocked, one in the chamber, spare mags close at hand
Pump Shotgun - Full tube, empty chamber (truck or house)
Double barrel shotgun - Not really used for SD/HD purposes - empty until ready to shoot.
Mag fed AR, M1A, Mini-14 - Loaded mag, empty chamber. Mag inserted if carried in vehicle or slung, mag separate if at home.
Bolt guns - unloaded until ready to use (not for HD/SD)
Magazine fed bolt guns - (for critter defense) loaded mag separate from rifle.
There is no answer to fit everyone. Know 100% how your guns work. Always handle them as if they were loaded!
My SD/HD guns are ready to go RIGHT DANG NOW, not later.
.455_Hunter
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I only way I will carry a semi-auto with a loaded chamber is on DA platform with a full weight / full stroke trigger (safety- 3914, or no safety- P239) or a SA platform with a safety (1911).
No way will I carry a chambered striker gun with only a 5lb trigger moving 1/4" as the only thing preventing a discharge.
I have been carrying handguns for nearly 30 years (since age 13), and I don't need "training" to prove to me that something intrinsically unsafe is somehow safe because you are supposed to keep your "booger hook off the bang switch". Mr. Murphy would beg to differ the one time a jacket cinch/chapstick/pen finds it's way into your trigger guard and your life is changed forever.
No way will I carry a chambered striker gun with only a 5lb trigger moving 1/4" as the only thing preventing a discharge.
I have been carrying handguns for nearly 30 years (since age 13), and I don't need "training" to prove to me that something intrinsically unsafe is somehow safe because you are supposed to keep your "booger hook off the bang switch". Mr. Murphy would beg to differ the one time a jacket cinch/chapstick/pen finds it's way into your trigger guard and your life is changed forever.
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oneounceload
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If carry your gun in a proper holster, the trigger is covered until drawn to fire. ANY NDs are from folks who violate your booger hook scenario.
I carry revolvers 95% of the time... a Ruger LCP the other 5%
They have long trigger pulls that give me confidence they won't go making decisions on their own and shoot off any of my favorite parts or put holes in things not needing holes...
Having said that, you have to have full confidence in what you carry. That comes with time and experience handling any weapon.
I wouldn't feel as easy carrying a striker fired auto with a "light" trigger....simply because I just don't have a lot of experience with them. I "know" they are safe and are safely carried by tons of guys every day, my friends included. I would need more time handling them before trading out my wheel guns.
I just don't agree that someone otherwise well trained is "un-armed or should just carry rocks" if they have a firearm with an unloaded chamber. Yes they may be making things harder than they need be... but if I had to choose between a Glock 19 with a full magazine and empty chamber or a bag of rocks...c'mon guys...really??
All of us are at different stages of our walk through life as legally armed folks. If someone feels a need to carry with an empty chamber until they are more confident or have time/money for more training...who am I to judge or call them names.
They have long trigger pulls that give me confidence they won't go making decisions on their own and shoot off any of my favorite parts or put holes in things not needing holes...
Having said that, you have to have full confidence in what you carry. That comes with time and experience handling any weapon.
I wouldn't feel as easy carrying a striker fired auto with a "light" trigger....simply because I just don't have a lot of experience with them. I "know" they are safe and are safely carried by tons of guys every day, my friends included. I would need more time handling them before trading out my wheel guns.
I just don't agree that someone otherwise well trained is "un-armed or should just carry rocks" if they have a firearm with an unloaded chamber. Yes they may be making things harder than they need be... but if I had to choose between a Glock 19 with a full magazine and empty chamber or a bag of rocks...c'mon guys...really??
All of us are at different stages of our walk through life as legally armed folks. If someone feels a need to carry with an empty chamber until they are more confident or have time/money for more training...who am I to judge or call them names.
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Only about a thousand times. To answer your question, I carry a J frame, so yes, there's one in the pipe.
AZretired
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I voted "Live round chambered", but actually since its a revolver, lets just say the cylinder is full.
Dvan34
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I carry my Shield .40 holstered, 1 round always chambered, Safety ON. I practice with the Safety on and as soon as I draw my thumb automatically depresses the Safety lever. Your pistol in the console unchambered is useless. Trying to rack a round into the chamber once you are threatened is dangerous and foolhardy. At that time you are likely to make many miscalculations, locating the pistol, even fumbling to get a grip on the pistol to bring it to bear on target. Why take an extra step? I choose to carry with the Safety ON, but practice continually until it is second nature. Pistol Out - Safety OFF before lining up on target. Never mind just the unchambered pistol, I would not put my pistol in a console. Practice! Practice! Practice!
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custer1876
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good afternoon , carry a Kahr P-9 in a crossbreed inside waist band holster, pocket mag holder with 8 rd mag. always one in barrel ,only way to carry defensive in my opinion . Remember Just My Opinion !!!!!!!
Doug M.
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Putting aside the points made about single action revolvers, which are correct but NMFP as I don't own any, any serious handgun should be carried as it is designed to be. Fully loaded. Period. Anything else is indicative of a need for remedial training, at best.
As shown by a few, 1911s get a loaded chamber, thumb safety on, then top up the mag, plus whatever spare mags fit your life. DA revolvers; all holes in the cylinder loaded. Striker fired or other format - just like the 1911s, without the additional safety. A pistol is what you carry for emergencies when you have no reason to expect a problem. As emergency rescue gear, it must be carried ready to use. Your method of carry/transport for the XD is a no go for two reasons already given.
Pocket carried pistols get carried in a proper holster, to both avoid wear to the pocket, and keep crud out of the trigger. Nothing else gets carried in that pocket. If you are deviating from that, ask Gunny Ermey for his two word direction for overcoming your shortcomings.
As shown by a few, 1911s get a loaded chamber, thumb safety on, then top up the mag, plus whatever spare mags fit your life. DA revolvers; all holes in the cylinder loaded. Striker fired or other format - just like the 1911s, without the additional safety. A pistol is what you carry for emergencies when you have no reason to expect a problem. As emergency rescue gear, it must be carried ready to use. Your method of carry/transport for the XD is a no go for two reasons already given.
Pocket carried pistols get carried in a proper holster, to both avoid wear to the pocket, and keep crud out of the trigger. Nothing else gets carried in that pocket. If you are deviating from that, ask Gunny Ermey for his two word direction for overcoming your shortcomings.
nimbly
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Empty chambers for safety is an antiquated practice. If the gun comes out it will be a hectic, adrenaline-fueled, stressful bit of business going on. If you pull your pistol it better be because you need it now. I wouldn't wanna be messing with empty chambers (or even safeties) when life is on the line. Modern pistols can safely have a round in the chamber.
What he said x1000, as far as I am concerned.
To answer the OP directly, whatever it is, if I am carrying it, it's loaded.
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The guy's a new member, just joined last month. He even apologized for the thread, in case it'd been discussed before. Maybe he hasn't learned to do a search here yet. Give him a break why don't you?
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I carry one in the chamber of a semi-auto. Doesn't really matter if it's a 1911 or a striker fired pistol with or without a thumb safety.
Just my opinion here, but to carry without one in the chamber is not far removed from carrying an unloaded pistol. I'm no law enforcement person or any kind of a gunfighter, but I do know seconds count, and I don't move as fast as I did thirty years ago.
Everyone has their own opinion about this. You have to do what you're trained for and what you are confortable with.
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