Recommendation for Scope Install with Iron Sight

[goodoboy]

Hello all,

I have this AR with nothing extra on it.

M&P(R)15 Sport™ II | Smith & Wesson

I would like to add a scope for shooting hogs (in the head/ear/kneck) up to 200 yards away.

My budget is about $300ish for the scope.

1. What do you recommend (make and model) as a quality scope? I was thinking 3x9 40.

2. What do you recommend as elevation mounts over the iron sights?

3. Will the extra elvation effect accuracy? I am thinking no, if I practice this way enough and get better.

Thank you for all recommendations

 

[Filo McShoe]

reread this your earlier thread:
When do I add Scope to AR15?
people ran down about every possible set up for you but now you start an new thread, makes me a little more sure you may be doing a little trolling here.

 

[goodoboy]

reread this your earlier thread:
When do I add Scope to AR15?
people ran down about every possible set up for you but now you start an new thread, makes me a little more sure you may be doing a little trolling here.

Thanks,

I am not sure why everyone gets so emotional with with this trolling stuff. Seriously, do you honestly think I would be wasting my precious time sitting here posting random stuff online just to bother people. Please stop saying I'm trolling. This my last time responding to anyone who mention I am trolling. You guys act if everyone in the world have X amount of years experience with AR. Just answer the questions so one day I can help someone else who is asking. Or I can pads the knowledge on to my family members and friends and kids. I want to teach others one day as well.

I have no idea what trolling even means. Sounds stupid. Please stop saying I'm trolling.

The forum is to ask questions for all new and experienced.

 

[Filo McShoe]

Let me ask a couple of questions:
How old are you?
Is your AR your 1st and only experience with a gun (not even a BB gun as a kid)?
Why did you pick an AR?
Do you suffer from any physical disabilities?
Sound of mind able to comprehend information and reasonably well educated?
Have a reasonable income?
With the history of your post going back to last year and still having issues why haven’t you taken a class at either:
360 Tactical Training
or
Athena Gun Club
In your area?

 

[Muss Muggins]

Same questions to you . . .

Let me ask a couple of questions:
How old are you?
Is your AR your 1st and only experience with a gun (not even a BB gun as a kid)?
Why did you pick an AR?
Do you suffer from any physical disabilities?
Sound of mind able to comprehend information and reasonably well educated?
Have a reasonable income?
With the history of your post going back to last year and still having issues why haven’t you taken a class at either:
360 Tactical Training
or
Athena Gun Club
In your area?

 

[Filo McShoe]

Mid 60s
Nope shot lots of stuff all the way back to the BB gun
Had ARs in the past for matches but not shooting 3 gun any more so gave it to the son
Old tired fat COPD diabetes count?
Depends on who you ask and what the subject matter is, had some college and attended a bunch of military training
It's taken a pretty good cut with retirement but still doing OK
I haven't had an issue learning something but lets say I wanted to play the piano, if I didn't have a natural gift for it (I don't) I'd take lessons.
Fair enough?

Let me add there are just little things in his post that make me wonder, now talking about shooting hogs not deer not just killing them but shooting them in the ear?
"I would like to add a scope for shooting hogs (in the head/ear/kneck) up to 200 yards away."

 

[jimbo728]

Nikon P223 3x9x40. Under $200.
Works great. Nice optics. Holds zero.
1/2 MOA is common for me with a 1/8 Sport.
Jim

 

[CalmerThanYou]

Find a good local gun store. They should be able to help with scope suggestions and a decent mount, and help you set it up.
perhaps they could also suggest some good local instruction to get the basics sorted out.

 

[goodoboy]

Nikon P223 3x9x40. Under $200.
Works great. Nice optics. Holds zero.
1/2 MOA is common for me with a 1/8 Sport.
Jim

Thanks jimbo728,

I went to Academy today to look at this scope Nikon ProStaff 3 - 9 x 50 Riflescope BDC | Academy It looks very clear and good field view. I will use this for shooting hogs and practice target shooting.

I will just mount this scope to the rail (with no elevation mount) and just ignore the iron sights if they show up in view. I only need to see the cross hair.

Academy will bore sight it for me. Then I will go to the outdoor range to sight it.

Question:
1. After the Academy bore sight it, should I field sight it for about 150 yards or less? I assume the hogs I will be shooting will be about 50 to 150 yards?

 

[goodoboy]

Find a good local gun store. They should be able to help with scope suggestions and a decent mount, and help you set it up.
perhaps they could also suggest some good local instruction to get the basics sorted out.

Yes, I am going to Carter Country this weekend and they have an open outdoor range and will help me out with everything I need to know.

 

[cyphertext]

Thanks jimbo728,

I went to Academy today to look at this scope Nikon ProStaff 3 - 9 x 50 Riflescope BDC | Academy It looks very clear and good field view. I will use this for shooting hogs and practice target shooting.

I will just mount this scope to the rail (with no elevation mount) and just ignore the iron sights if they show up in view. I only need to see the cross hair.

Academy will bore sight it for me. Then I will go to the outdoor range to sight it.

Question:
1. After the Academy bore sight it, should I field sight it for about 150 yards or less? I assume the hogs I will be shooting will be about 50 to 150 yards?

Read the manual with the scope. It will tell you what distance you need to sight it in so that the BDC is usable.

 

[cyphertext]

Also, buy the Nikon mounts that go with that scope so that it is mounted at the proper height for the AR.

 

[MistWolf]

I will just mount this scope to the rail (with no elevation mount) and just ignore the iron sights if they show up in view. I only need to see the cross hair.

That ain't gonna work. The scope has to be tall enough for the shooter to get a comfortable cheek weld. The crosshairs also have to be taller than the front sight. You may not see the front sight in the scope, but it's in the way nonetheless. If you're going to mount a magnified optic to your AR, make your life easy and shave the front sight.

 

[AR Owner]

The front sights will not be visible with the Nikon scope, I have the nikon P223 scope on nikon p223 mounts.

 

[fyimo]

What He Said, Here's one of mine with the Nikon P223 scope mounted and it doesn't see the AR 15 front sight. It zero's as it should and its very accurate.

 

[Arub01]

fyimo: Appreciate the pic. Fixing to set up a Nikon P223 and was wondering about positioning it. Photo helps. I'm 71 years young and this is my first scope, been using iron sights all my life. Thanks.

 

[jimbo728]

Also, buy the Nikon mounts that go with that scope so that it is mounted at the proper height for the AR.

I have to agree, even though I have gotten away with less expensiv3 UTG rings. The kicker is the 50mm objective on your new Pro Staff. The Nikon mounts will give more clearance with the larger objective lens.
Jim

 

[fyimo]

fyimo: Appreciate the pic. Fixing to set up a Nikon P223 and was wondering about positioning it. Photo helps. I'm 71 years young and this is my first scope, been using iron sights all my life. Thanks.

Thanks, I'm 74 by the way so I know what you are talking about.

 

[goodoboy]

What He Said, Here's one of mine with the Nikon P223 scope mounted and it doesn't see the AR 15 front sight. It zero's as it should and its very accurate.

Thank you so much fyimo,

I really appreciate the help. That is the exact scope I really considering purchase from Academy.

1. What does the following mean Screenshot by Lightshot in red box.

"provides open-circle aiming points with markings from 100 to 600 yards and tactical-style turrets " ? Does the mean the scope only works for up to 600 yards.

"developed specifically for the trajectory of the .223 Rem/5.56 NATO round with a 55-grain polymer tip bullet"?

2. Does this mean the scope only works well with 55 grain bullets? Or will I have site again for high grain bullets.

3. Where did you order the Nikion rings from?
Thanks for the help

 

[jimbo728]

You can use the Nikon online info site to tailor your specific load and zero to get you where you want to be.
Jim