Redhead safe broken into

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I also can not view pics but I can imagine what it looks like. Every Menards lowes and big box stores sell "safes" they are more like a metal storage cabinet that resembles a safe, cheap chinese ****. Just because it looks like a safe does not mean it is a safe. You get what you pay for. A good safe made in America will cost $3000 and up so I guess you can decide if you want to put a nice gun collection in a cheap safe and take the chance this guy did, bet he will buy a good one next time!
 
I got permission from the owner first. He has now approved me to re-post the pics.

I am guessing here, but some other people were discussing that Youtube has a "how to" on how to bust into a cheap safe like this. You pry open the corner (you can see that's what happened -- only the bolts near one corner were bent) and then pop one bolt out enough, which breaks the internal system and then all of the bolts come free. Cheap safes fail this easily. Especially if not bolted to the floor or the wall.

I haven't seen it in a while, but there was some video of a guy doing this simply by drilling a small hole in the steel where one of the bolts was, then smacking it hard with a hammer. The entire door came open in under a minute:

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Not sure which safe this was but a quick search Bass Pro comes up and I don't think $1000 is a cheap safe. They my be over priced, but if that's cheap I guess I need to spend twice that for a good safe.
 
Back years ago, before nite deposits slot at local banks,
businesses had free standing safes and we'd see a lot of em peeled.

Every 'safe man' had their on signature style of peeling or punching safes........
Most always layed on it's back and the door crimped and pried, starting on a corner, etc......

I guess it's coming back in vogue now in days in home burglaries.

There been cases where the thieves used a roll-back wrecker,
with a winch to jerk the safe outside and load er up and gone..........




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We should be glad the burglars didn't just wheel that thing out with a dolly and crack it at their homie's garage.

Safes, IMO, lend a false sense of security. The US Military and many police departments have armed guards and millions of dollars in security hardware, yet even they get hit with thefts. The only security any of us have is guarding the knowledge of our collections. You cannot steal what you don't know exists.
 
We had a defective safe at our store, the lock was messed up and would not disengage. the manufaturer replaced it, told us to just scrap the bad one. One of our regular customers said he was sure he could get it open....20 minutes...turned it upside down, put a pry bar on it and popped it open...not real impressed with safes any more.
 
I saw a video of two guys with rock bars break in a cheap safe in about 10 minutes. Yes I do have a cheap safe. :mad: Don
 
I have seen a video stateing and showing that ANY safe can be opened relatively easy with bars if flipped over onto it back.
They should be bolted down.

Of course they are better than nothing and will deter the amateur thief or someone in a hurry.
 
Lots of evidence here that BOLTING IT DOWN is of utmost importance. I did hear of a local story where the thieves showed up with a wrecker truck and fed a winch line through a window and pulled it out through the wall of the house to discover its contents elsewhere.

Somehow, from the effort I think they had some clue that the contents were worth the trouble.
 
The Mythbusters opened up a safe with water and TNT. Water does not compress and the small explosive created a preasure wave and blew the door clean off. The point was to prove or bust a movie myth.
 
Makes since they need to be put on there backs. That way you can place more leverage on the crowbar using your entire body weight. I think popping one open that's standing correctly would be much much harder because full body weight cant be used. They have to use there upper body strength or lower body strength.

Thats still pretty scary but the bottom line is nothing is full proof. The best safe's and equipment in the world where still designed by humans who are not perfect. Finding a flaw might take time but its there and if someone wants in bad enough they will find it.
 
I think its pretty darn important to bolt one down and hopefully in a closet or a corner where it would be hard to get a six foot pry bar on it for some leverage. The only thing more important is to take the makers name off of the safe. If a crook new what brand safe it was and could examine the locking mechanism of that certain brand, it would be very easy for him to know where to drill a hole or two and override the locking mechanism.
 
Just watched a video on You Tube were it was demonstrated that a $1000.00 safe available from various big box stores was opened in under 2 minutes! :eek:

Search, "racing to the bottom".
 
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