Reloading with Titegroup

I triedTG. It worked...about 4 or 5 ounces.. The rest is still here. Not Real happy with it...Yep gets pretty hot fired fast. I have enough powders to use. I like to use powders with a bit higher powder charge.
 
While it might be true that the fastest burning powders, might over heat a gun;

one also has to remember that most of the shooters at major meets,
try to shoot loads at pf125, which is a factory loading, out of a 5" barrel.

My light 3.5" target loads are at fp109 but when shot out of my 5" barrel.
they jump up to 120-123pf, with the added fps that is gained.

The only gun that I had get hot enough, not to touch for a minute or two was my .357, that was shooting two loadings of super hot loads.

I however do not shoot at pistol meets, to where 2-3 mags of ammo are gone through in a minute or two.

I did notice that Titegroup powder is mentioned a lot in todays info,
on this subject, for target loads, though.
 
This is interesting , the comments about Lil Gun powder !

I recently tried Lil Gun in 32 WCF. I used the data from the Hodgdon website. I fired maybe 18 rounds then pulled the rest. Apparently Lil Gun is not a good powder for 32 WCF. I had a lot of unburned powder, so much that it was pointless to continue. Accuracy was so - so, maybe a 5 inch pattern. I suspect that this powder likes to be at or near maximum in a magnum caliber to give good results.

It works better than Titegroup so I am willing to try it in a different caliber. Maybe 357 Magnum.
 
I have used Titegroup for many years in 9, 38,357 and 40. I pretty much started with TG several years ago and have never been disappointed. It is very economical, meters well and is very accurate. When I am working up loads for a new pistol or bullet combination I usually use TG and W231/HP38 for comparisons. Currently working up several bullets for my new Prodigy and so far, TG is fairing well.

As far as being hot, getting the firearm hot, bullets hot, etc, I have no experience in that arena. There are a lot of urban legends that follow TG it seems. People use it as a poster powder for double charges but W231 could easily do the same as it is a small charge powder. Power Pistol as well.

I pour my own bullets and powder coat but have loaded using bullets of all sorts and materials with no problems. I did find the TG caused considerable smoke when I used the old Lee Alox lube. For me, if TG really had all the problems people seem to say it does, it would not be on the market.

The only downside I find with TG is the difference between high and low is very small.
 
I also load L'il Gun Powder. I used it for a time in 410 skeet loads. Quit I as a really hot burning powder in the 410. And it fit the case so well. perfect crimps etc. At the end of 25 rounds the bbls were hot...50..even hotter. I still use it in my loading in the 41 mag. I never shoot those very quickly anyway. Great groups and good vels. The pistol loading I did with TG though was usually shot faster. I also had a concern with the very small difference between starting loads and max. So with all the powders I already have I dn't need to use TG. BTW I also don't use Bullseye. For years in handguns I used RD/GD , Unique , 2400 for most. I don't shoot games where I have to go to excess to meet power factors. Seems some of those fellows blow up a few guns....32-20 is definitely (NOT)a L'il Gun match. LOL THAT WAS ORIGINALLY SAID TONGUE IN CHEEK!!
 
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It would be interesting to see the results using an infrared thermometer firing 4 cylinders of a load with TG and again after the gun cooled down to ambient temperature four more cylinders of a single based powder that was going the same velocity.
 
I recently tried Lil Gun in 32 WCF. I used the data from the Hodgdon website. I fired maybe 18 rounds then pulled the rest. Apparently Lil Gun is not a good powder for 32 WCF. I had a lot of unburned powder, so much that it was pointless to continue. Accuracy was so - so, maybe a 5 inch pattern. I suspect that this powder likes to be at or near maximum in a magnum caliber to give good results.

It works better than Titegroup so I am willing to try it in a different caliber. Maybe 357 Magnum.

I've been using it in 350 legend, where it seems to work fairly well.
 
It would be interesting to see the results using an infrared thermometer firing 4 cylinders of a load with TG and again after the gun cooled down to ambient temperature four more cylinders of a single based powder that was going the same velocity.

There would be a big difference in a 9mm if the test were with a little 3" and a long, 5" barrel.

A 4" barrel in a cylinder and pistol, would probably, be the best "Fair" option.
 
Mine was exceptionally hot after firing only 50 rounds. So hot that I took a picture. It was leaching humidity from the air; something I have only seen previously when opening a 400 degree plus oven and having my glasses frost over. And you are telling us it doesn't happen? This is a picture of my revolver after shooting 50 rounds at a leisurely pace with Titegroup reloads. The frost you see disappeared after a few minutes as the barrel returned to 250 degrees.

Hot surfaces don't leach humidity from the air. It's just the opposite. What happens when you open a hot oven is that the hot, moisture laden air from the oven hits your relatively cool glasses and the moisture condenses on the glass, fogging it up. Same as the moisture on a glass of ice water.
 
I'm curious to hear from folks that use the powder as to their favorite loads for any of the above mentioned calibers.

Earl: I use TiteGroup for 9mm and 45 ACP. Loaded at least several thousand rounds of each.
For 9mm Luger have settled on 4.0 grains for 9mm 115 grain plated RN. These rounds are used with an M&P 9 shield, an CZ75 and an HK P2000.
For the .45 ACP it is 4.5 grains pushing 230 grains plated RN. These go thru two M1911’s, a modern Springfield and a 1944 USGI RR.


Both of these loads are within the Hornady 10th Edition ranges.
 
I saw a video today a guy had 4 , 44 magnum pistols of barrel lengths ranging from 4" , 5" , 6.5" and 83/8" . He was using a 240 cast bullet . His load was 8.0 grs of titegroup . The 4" avg'd 1000 fps with in increase to 1078 with the longest barrel . It was only 3fps faster than the 6.5" . The 8.0 grs load of titegroup has become my " everyday carry " load in my 44's . Regards Paul
 
4.6- 4.8gr of TG under a 200gr SWC in my 1911's is money. Nice light target load that I recently discovered and I suspect Ill continue to use until these 4lbs are gone. No leading and my guns are no more hot than with any other powder. Of course I dont have a fancy IR thermometer to check with but nothing thats not expected.
No, Im not discounting anyone elses experiences or opinions.
 
BillBro….I am almost out of my Everglades 230 plated RN (great stuff BTW) and I need to get some more bullets one of these days. Your 200 SWC post sounds interesting. I have the TG but what’s your bullet supplier? Or do you cast? Hopefully the former (from my perspective) as I dont need to add to my hobbies.

Thanks for your service.

Tim
 
I use Titegroup exclusively for 9mm and .40 S&W. I love the stuff, have loaded and fired well over 10,000 rounds of .40 through Glocks. I do a lot of night qualifications and find the muzzle flash is significantly less than most other loads.
 
Some of my most accurate .38SPL loads are moderate loads of Titegroup behind a 125TC Lasercast projectile.
 
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