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Made the trip across NY at least 50 times. They have troopers in the medians and they have an office in the Middletown Rest area
Relocating to a new primary residence with guns
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Made the trip across NY at least 50 times. They have troopers in the medians and they have an office in the Middletown Rest area
It's all good until, thru no fault of your own, you're involved in a motor vehicle accident rendering your vehicle undrivable. Then what are you going to do?
I sweated that scenario for 800 miles....how the heck would transfer all this to a rental vehicle along the road side....what other option is there, Muss?
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Here's my advise.....
STAY OUT OF NEW JERSEY!!! Technically you have a legal right to pass through the State assuming your guns are all stored and locked up properly & legally. It even states that in NJ Gun Laws on their website - but their State Troopers do what they want anyway - who needs the hassle! That said, I know of several instances where legal transportation through NJ has turned into a disastrous mess. Even if legal, you might never see your guns again. I had 3 friends who were LEO's legally passing from NY through NJ to PA for a sanctioned SASS Match - they were stopped for a traffic infraction and had their guns confiscated - don't know what the final resolution was as they were trying to get their stuff returned. I also have a friend who at the time was a Federal Agent on official business who was almost arrested for carrying Gov't. Issued Hollow Point ammo in his Gov't issued Glock while driving his Gov't issued vehicle. He had to get his supervisors involved and and wasted the day arguing with brain washed idiots in NJ. Legal or not, NJ seems to do what ever they want! STAY OUT!
If you are moving from RI to GA, I'd spend a few extra hours and go AROUND NJ. Yea, extra time, extra gas and tolls - but to me it's just worth it. In the long run, the extra time will not be a major issue. For what its worth, I recently moved south and followed my own advise - I went AROUND NJ. Just my two cents worth.
STAY OUT OF NEW JERSEY!!! Technically you have a legal right to pass through the State assuming your guns are all stored and locked up properly & legally. It even states that in NJ Gun Laws on their website - but their State Troopers do what they want anyway - who needs the hassle! That said, I know of several instances where legal transportation through NJ has turned into a disastrous mess. Even if legal, you might never see your guns again. I had 3 friends who were LEO's legally passing from NY through NJ to PA for a sanctioned SASS Match - they were stopped for a traffic infraction and had their guns confiscated - don't know what the final resolution was as they were trying to get their stuff returned. I also have a friend who at the time was a Federal Agent on official business who was almost arrested for carrying Gov't. Issued Hollow Point ammo in his Gov't issued Glock while driving his Gov't issued vehicle. He had to get his supervisors involved and and wasted the day arguing with brain washed idiots in NJ. Legal or not, NJ seems to do what ever they want! STAY OUT!
If you are moving from RI to GA, I'd spend a few extra hours and go AROUND NJ. Yea, extra time, extra gas and tolls - but to me it's just worth it. In the long run, the extra time will not be a major issue. For what its worth, I recently moved south and followed my own advise - I went AROUND NJ. Just my two cents worth.
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Thanks for the advise. I have made the trip from PA to New England over 100 times, and while I know several routes, I never go in NJ or near NYC. For a trip like this, I would take back roads through RI and CT to 84 North of Waterbury, CT, then 84 to Scranton, and drop down South on 81
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Clearly a thought and concern. What is the alternative?
I have even thought that the spare tire needs to go on the back seat. Also, rendering all guns inoperable by removing bolts, cylinders, slides and trigger groups and shipping them separately. Hate the thought
I have done this twice, you can't worry about what might. Goodness forbid something happens, you'd stay with your vehicle, call Enterprise to deliver you an SUV, transfer your stuff and drive on. If you get a flat tire, call AAA and have them bring a tire and change it for you.. I kept a loaded carry piece in all the states where my permit was recognized. (i had to unload in SC since they aren't reciprocal with PA)
I left Boston years ago, and as much as I miss the area and family/friends, I'd never move back to that BS. I'm so glad I got out and have lived in free states, able to enjoy my life and hobbies without the authoritarian, anti-American dictates. So many people up there just seem like brainwashed acolytes to a movement that makes no sense to me. Sad how much it's changed, and that we have to have this thread about where we can freely move about with legally owned, Constitutionally protected property! Free state, not free state, what has happened to our country?!
Enough with that rant, to help with the question at hand, I had a move a few years ago. Free state to free state, so it was a little easier. But, I still had the concern of safely, and securely moving my guns. I had the added hassle of not having a house ready at the state where I was moving. Ended up talking to my mover, and they agreed to move the guns. Guns stayed in the safes, were stored in their warehouse office for a couple months, and delivered to my new house when it was ready. Real easy, and the cost was just the usual weight/distance charges. Smooth process. Might be something to consider/ask about.
Whenever I drive back (still have property in NH, and family in MA), it's always the 81/84 route. I avoid NYC/NJ at all costs. It's also a much easier, prettier drive…
Enough with that rant, to help with the question at hand, I had a move a few years ago. Free state to free state, so it was a little easier. But, I still had the concern of safely, and securely moving my guns. I had the added hassle of not having a house ready at the state where I was moving. Ended up talking to my mover, and they agreed to move the guns. Guns stayed in the safes, were stored in their warehouse office for a couple months, and delivered to my new house when it was ready. Real easy, and the cost was just the usual weight/distance charges. Smooth process. Might be something to consider/ask about.
Whenever I drive back (still have property in NH, and family in MA), it's always the 81/84 route. I avoid NYC/NJ at all costs. It's also a much easier, prettier drive…
In my relocation to Texas after the divorce I moved what was left of my collection, after the divorce sell off approx. 40 firearms, in two ways. I first drove to Texas in November 2011 in my crew cab Silverado. Handguns and modern rifles were on the floor of the rear seat, under a lot of stuff, no problems.
When my ex's and my house sold, I flew back East to get the rest of my stuff. I packed up a 17' Uhaul and headed back to Texas. Had my safe and long guns in the back. Because I had flown, I didn't have a handgun with me, should have bought one while I was there, didn't think about that, had a lot of other things on my mind.
The drive back to Texas was pretty uneventful, took two days, stayed over night at a hotel in Northern Alabama, until the second day. I got into Louisiana, down by New Orleans and had gotten on I-12, heading up to Baton Rouge. Very busy road. Now I had a pretty good load on that truck. The safe was at the back and there were two, three set, roll on tool boxes full of tools back there as well. About midway between New Orleans and Baton Rouge the back of the truck started to sway and seemed to get a bit squishy, I was in the right lane and had a blow out on the right rear , inside dual tire. I pulled over at a decent spot and hoped that I had cell service. I called the Uhaul emergency number and they said that they would have the local emergency repair man on the way. Took about an hour, a very nervous hour. I was by myself, no one stopped, just a lot of traffic passing me by. The repair truck showed up and took about an hour and a half to replace both tires on the right rear. And I was on my way, a bit over three hours late.
Only other pucker moment on that trip was when I was heading up the bridge on West I10 at Lake Charles, the truck cut off. They were working on the bridge at the time , one lane was blocked off with cones and traffic was pretty slow, and it was dark. As the truck was coasting and I was trying to figure out what to do and not block I10, I put the truck in neutral and tried starting it and it fired back up, I put it back in gear and I was on my way. The rest of the journey to Houston was spent on high alert for anything odd that this cursed Uhaul truck was going to do. I was very glad to make it to my destination that night and get out of that truck
When my ex's and my house sold, I flew back East to get the rest of my stuff. I packed up a 17' Uhaul and headed back to Texas. Had my safe and long guns in the back. Because I had flown, I didn't have a handgun with me, should have bought one while I was there, didn't think about that, had a lot of other things on my mind.
The drive back to Texas was pretty uneventful, took two days, stayed over night at a hotel in Northern Alabama, until the second day. I got into Louisiana, down by New Orleans and had gotten on I-12, heading up to Baton Rouge. Very busy road. Now I had a pretty good load on that truck. The safe was at the back and there were two, three set, roll on tool boxes full of tools back there as well. About midway between New Orleans and Baton Rouge the back of the truck started to sway and seemed to get a bit squishy, I was in the right lane and had a blow out on the right rear , inside dual tire. I pulled over at a decent spot and hoped that I had cell service. I called the Uhaul emergency number and they said that they would have the local emergency repair man on the way. Took about an hour, a very nervous hour. I was by myself, no one stopped, just a lot of traffic passing me by. The repair truck showed up and took about an hour and a half to replace both tires on the right rear. And I was on my way, a bit over three hours late.
Only other pucker moment on that trip was when I was heading up the bridge on West I10 at Lake Charles, the truck cut off. They were working on the bridge at the time , one lane was blocked off with cones and traffic was pretty slow, and it was dark. As the truck was coasting and I was trying to figure out what to do and not block I10, I put the truck in neutral and tried starting it and it fired back up, I put it back in gear and I was on my way. The rest of the journey to Houston was spent on high alert for anything odd that this cursed Uhaul truck was going to do. I was very glad to make it to my destination that night and get out of that truck
There's not an alternative. Like several others have posted, you gotta be aware of the possibilities and potentials, and just do it. The alternative is not moving. Which I'm not suggesting . . .
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We have a winner!!!!
Two problematic birds with one stone, safes and guns.
While interstate movers can legally transport guns, some choose not to. You asked, they agreed. Plus the safes provided the mandated security. Plus, insurance!
Edit: Movers can't take your ammo, so your still on the hook for that stash.
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All true. I used a well regarded, large, local moving company, not a large National chain mover. It was a bit of a leap of faith with them having possession of my guns, but I talked to the owner of the company and he was a like-minded, solid guy.
And I did move the ammo on my own. Kept it in a storage unit until ready to move into my house. It was then that I realized that I am, indeed, an ammo hoarder…
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There is always an alternative. Most times it's inconvenient, expensive and a hassle. If the OP was moving 1 or 2 guns, then fine a chance might be worth taking. Moving an entire lifetime collection is another thing - well worth alternative measures IMO.
For me it added 130 miles, 2 1/2 hours travel time and extra tolls to stay out of the Nazi State. The return for me was I had no worries! A trip through NJ would have been hours of stress - simply not worth it to me - even though I would have been well within my legal rights to do so. Just simply not worth the risk!
Plenty of good advice on your route. When we moved to PA the reduction in taxes was like a $5,000 raise in retirement. First thing that I bought firearms wise was a can for my MAC10. People just don't believe that property taxes are assessed on vehicles on a yearly basis in RI.
A friend and former coworker lives in Ellijay and likes GA very much. Good luck on your relocation.
A friend and former coworker lives in Ellijay and likes GA very much. Good luck on your relocation.
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After reading through all these posts you wouldn't know we live in a free country with constitutional rights that specifically mention firearms.
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Some towns do not tax any more if you own property. If you rent, you are taxed. Some towns have tax at DOUBLE the house rate, and use retail value, not wholesale. So, if you bought a new 40K truck, and lived in say Burrillville, RI, they would want 1600/year in taxes on that. Any car ten years or older, tax free
I made sure to get this house set up as my forever home. The only way I am moving is if they carry me out.
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Where in Georgia are you headed to?
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If I go, it will be about 15 miles below Savannah. Skidway Island
Good luck in your move. Drive safe!
I moved from ILL-annoy to Missouri and hauled everything firearm related in an enclosed trailer. The good stuff was buried behind furniture and beneath boxes of other stuff. My brother followed just in case...you never know. I death gripped the steering wheel the entire trip (3 hrs). Lucky for you that you don't have to worry about Il. state troopers
I moved from ILL-annoy to Missouri and hauled everything firearm related in an enclosed trailer. The good stuff was buried behind furniture and beneath boxes of other stuff. My brother followed just in case...you never know. I death gripped the steering wheel the entire trip (3 hrs). Lucky for you that you don't have to worry about Il. state troopers
I did this last year, guns and ammunition from the Midwest. Pain in the neck, but no problems. Made two stops at more expensive Hotels in gun friendly states, only had to pass through Illinois as far as unfriendly states.
My car was in excellent shape and did all the major Services before leaving. Stuck to the traffic laws and speed limits, and nothing on my cars indicate gun ownership.
If you REALLY want to play it safe, find a Biden-Harris Campaign Sticker and put it on your car til you get out of danger. Use a magnetic sheet so you don't mess up your paint.
My car was in excellent shape and did all the major Services before leaving. Stuck to the traffic laws and speed limits, and nothing on my cars indicate gun ownership.
If you REALLY want to play it safe, find a Biden-Harris Campaign Sticker and put it on your car til you get out of danger. Use a magnetic sheet so you don't mess up your paint.
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This is why I plan on staying in PA as long as I live, if possible. I'm planning on a trip to South Carolina, John's Island near Charleston, to visit my sister & BIL. For one week I'll take my chances & leave my CCW at home.
I'll be heading to my other sister's in Texas, San Antonio area, but the states I'm traveling through are friendly. She has a couple of my dad's rifles I want to get. She doesn't want them so I'm gonna take the road trip to pick them up. Darned shame. I can drive a 3000+ pound vehicle capable of going over 100 MPH in any state and 2 border countries, but, blah blah blah, etc.!!
Be careful on the highway when you take that trip to GA.
I'll be heading to my other sister's in Texas, San Antonio area, but the states I'm traveling through are friendly. She has a couple of my dad's rifles I want to get. She doesn't want them so I'm gonna take the road trip to pick them up. Darned shame. I can drive a 3000+ pound vehicle capable of going over 100 MPH in any state and 2 border countries, but, blah blah blah, etc.!!
Be careful on the highway when you take that trip to GA.
bigwheelzip
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Don't drive too fast, don't drive too slow, don't look nervous, don't look calm, don't make eye contact with the trooper on the side of the road, don't avoid eye contact with the trooper on the side of the road, don't let trash accumulate in the passenger compartment, don't overly clean the passenger compartment .....
All things that have been used to try to establish "reasonable suspicion" or "probable cause." Good luck.
