Just a point of parliamentary procedure, because all I've seen are cut and pastes from websites, but I own three Shockwaves, one in each flavor, and they all have two rails, one on each side of the slide . . .
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Remington Tac-14 vs. Mossberg Shockwave......
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Just a point of parliamentary procedure, because all I've seen are cut and pastes from websites, but I own three Shockwaves, one in each flavor, and they all have two rails, one on each side of the slide . . .
ACORN
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I bought the Shockwave being Opsol makes a adapter to feed mini-shell and thereby bumping up the mag. capacity to 9 IIRC.
BigBoku
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Mossberg went to dual action bars after Remingtons patent expired in 1970.
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tenntex32
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I'll admit that I got the bug for a wood furniture Shockwave or Tac-14 the very first time I saw both setting side-by-side in the same store display case.
The somewhat short 18 1/2" 590A1 with Speedfeed stock and 2-shot mag-tube extension that I currently own has successfully kept me from pulling the trigger on one though.......for now at least.
The somewhat short 18 1/2" 590A1 with Speedfeed stock and 2-shot mag-tube extension that I currently own has successfully kept me from pulling the trigger on one though.......for now at least.
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rainyknight
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I have a shockwave in 12 ga, it is a handful to shoot with the birdshead grip but is doable especially with the opsol mini clip installed and using the 1.75" mini-shells. It also increases the capacity to 8 rounds. Makes it a very good companion in the truck or in close quarters. Streamlight makes a forend with integral light and if you want a little more control SB tactical makes an adapter so you can add a pistol brace (currently that is considered ok by the BATFE). With the pistol brace it is just as controllable as any other 12 ga shotgun and considerably more so that the 500 cruiser with the pistol grip, which I also own.
As to the reliability of the 500/590 i've been using the shipboard in the Navy for over 20 years and while I have seen them actually fall apart from rust (magazine cap flying off followed by spring and shells) I have never seen one fail to fire. And trust me, if you have no experience with sailors and marines, they can and will find a way to destroy a crowbar in a sandbox. The ones on ship are often decades old and abused to the point where a civilian would probably just throw them away but they don't jam and always go bang. In a marine environment the plastic trigger group is a godsend by the way. Just my personal experience and hope I didn't step on anyone's toes, I also feel that the 870 is a fine weapon especially the police magnums.
As to the reliability of the 500/590 i've been using the shipboard in the Navy for over 20 years and while I have seen them actually fall apart from rust (magazine cap flying off followed by spring and shells) I have never seen one fail to fire. And trust me, if you have no experience with sailors and marines, they can and will find a way to destroy a crowbar in a sandbox. The ones on ship are often decades old and abused to the point where a civilian would probably just throw them away but they don't jam and always go bang. In a marine environment the plastic trigger group is a godsend by the way. Just my personal experience and hope I didn't step on anyone's toes, I also feel that the 870 is a fine weapon especially the police magnums.
Sistema1927
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I put the pistol grip/brace on my Shockwave, but soon removed it due to the fact that you cannot manipulate the safety without removing your hand from the grip. Went back to the Raptor grip. I also have the Laserlyte Center Mass which gives this pattern that expands with range:
I am an 870 guy.. since I was 14 years old... 54 now...
but would go with the Mossberg Shockwave because of the mini shell option... just simple math really
but would go with the Mossberg Shockwave because of the mini shell option... just simple math really
Delta Rose
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I wonder if folks are apprehensive about buying a new Remington firearm given the uncertainty of any warranty support? I plan on keeping all of my 870s, 1100s and my '06 700, and am sad to see the demise of a once-great company...
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Someone will inevitably pick up Remington. Ruger already secured Marlin since the bankruptcy occurred, so I'll bet that by SHOT Show 2021 someone will have acquired Remington.
Besides, I stopped caring about Warranties a few years ago after numerous companies either did away with their Warranty or otherwise made it cover so few issues which were virtually impossible for the firearm to even leave the factory with.
Besides, I stopped caring about Warranties a few years ago after numerous companies either did away with their Warranty or otherwise made it cover so few issues which were virtually impossible for the firearm to even leave the factory with.
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I prefer Mossbergs ergos, better safety location, better pump release, no loading gate/shell lifter in the way to catch your thumb.
As far as quality, it you charted both on a graph you would end up with an X. As Mossbergs have improved, Remingtons have started to **** out. I'd say the lines probably intersected somewhere in the early to mid nineties.
As far as quality, it you charted both on a graph you would end up with an X. As Mossbergs have improved, Remingtons have started to **** out. I'd say the lines probably intersected somewhere in the early to mid nineties.
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