Nailer
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$299 for a 9mm Shield is a good deal. But, I wouldn't enjoy it on the ankle due to weight. So far, it is great OWB and works flawlessly. I haven't explored IWB options much yet, but would love some recommendations.
Replace a J frame with a Shield, yes or no?
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Kadonny
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A Shield literally disappears IWB. A good IWB holster works awesomely, and there are a bunch of great choices out there to choose from. AlienGear, Crossbread, etc all work really well.
That being said, I still grab my 642 more because of the ease of carry ability.
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Two things
1) I gave a LCR and Shield and no way I could ankle or pocket carry the Shield. That being said I love the Shield (carry with a n82 holster) and am very accurate with it
2). Where is this $299 deal?!?
1) I gave a LCR and Shield and no way I could ankle or pocket carry the Shield. That being said I love the Shield (carry with a n82 holster) and am very accurate with it
2). Where is this $299 deal?!?
RONALD HENSLEY
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i have both the j-frame 637 wyatt deep cover version and a shield 9mm both have thier place in my line up, if im in a hury or just runing down to the store the j-frame is quick and easy to grab an go, but what i carry every day at work is the shield...why you may ask? everytime i go to the range its the shield that i blow the bullseye out of the target with!
im good with the j-frame, but i rock with the shield.
im good with the j-frame, but i rock with the shield.
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hoosierboy57
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I have the same gun but with the stock finish. I haven't seen one like yours, is it a custom finish?
hoosierboy57
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If I found the Shield for $299 I'd buy another because around here $359 has been the lowest I've seen. I've got 2 J Frames that I like to carry but sometimes I prefer my Shield because it's so easy in a IWB holster. Keep the J Frame and get the Shield, it's good to be proficient with both types of guns.
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I wouldn't say that I haven't looked back since buying my Shield but I would say I look at my 642 a lot more and carry the Shield most times.
Like most of the above said for pocket/ankle carry, which still has its place, the 642/442/etc.... is the way to go. I bought my Shield to replace my 642 and carry it the majority of the time in an N82 Pro holster and love it.
I shoot the Shield a little better at distance (25 yards) than the 642 but for self defense ranges either works and both are accurate. I would follow suite with keeping both because it rounds out a good set up for most scenarios.
Like most of the above said for pocket/ankle carry, which still has its place, the 642/442/etc.... is the way to go. I bought my Shield to replace my 642 and carry it the majority of the time in an N82 Pro holster and love it.
I shoot the Shield a little better at distance (25 yards) than the 642 but for self defense ranges either works and both are accurate. I would follow suite with keeping both because it rounds out a good set up for most scenarios.
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I carry a 642 and always have it with me. That being said the Shield is a gun you can actually fight with (better sights/grip...) whereas I consider the J-frame to be a close in self defense firearm. Couple of friends of mine carry the Shield IWB all the time.
I have Shield...
...and a J frame. Both are useful and for $299 I think they are worth having if there's any chance to use use it.
...and a J frame. Both are useful and for $299 I think they are worth having if there's any chance to use use it.
I remember when I got my Shield the 9mm's were impossible to find and sold for a premium when you did. I "settled" for a .40 S&W and it's been a great shooter and ccw piece in the waist band with a second magazine off hand side. At $299.00 I'd pop for it.
My 642 went in the safe shortly after I got the Shield and hasn't been out since, but I'm not planning to get rid of it. I pocket carry the Shield in cargo shorts some of the time and think it conceals at least as well as the J-frame. Otherwise I carry OWB under an un-tucked shirt. Also got a shoulder holster incoming since it will be cool enough in Florida soon to wear a jacket.
Your experience may vary, but I'd vote "Buy that Shield!"
Your experience may vary, but I'd vote "Buy that Shield!"
rangemeister
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$299 Shields for LE/Military, active or retired, as well as others on internet.
johnnywitt
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Ok, so if you are going to Ankle or Pocket carry a BUG I think you need to think about how that weapon will be deployed in real life.
If the weapon is likely to be deployed at close range or in a physical struggle the a J Frame is unparalleled.
The Gun will not jam on you while struggling in odd firing positions, or shooting one handed & won't jam or go out of battery with a contact shot.
Plus, it can be fired through a pocket or purse if hammerless, or has a shrouded/cut down hammer.
I also think the whole practice two handed with your J Frame is overblown if you are a CCW Carrier, or a LEO using your J Frame as a BUG. If you are a CCW, it's unlikely that you will use your J Frame past 3yrds & if your a LEO you are only going to go for your BUG if you have gone past the Primary Weapon, or it fails, or you are on your back, or in a fight thats gone to ground. If anything, Folks need to practice shooting their J Frame one handed and point shooting, or shooting from weird positions.
If the weapon is likely to be deployed at close range or in a physical struggle the a J Frame is unparalleled.
The Gun will not jam on you while struggling in odd firing positions, or shooting one handed & won't jam or go out of battery with a contact shot.
Plus, it can be fired through a pocket or purse if hammerless, or has a shrouded/cut down hammer.
I also think the whole practice two handed with your J Frame is overblown if you are a CCW Carrier, or a LEO using your J Frame as a BUG. If you are a CCW, it's unlikely that you will use your J Frame past 3yrds & if your a LEO you are only going to go for your BUG if you have gone past the Primary Weapon, or it fails, or you are on your back, or in a fight thats gone to ground. If anything, Folks need to practice shooting their J Frame one handed and point shooting, or shooting from weird positions.
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GatorFarmer
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Shiptons Big R, a regional farm and ranch store had the sale.
Isn't a Shield about the same weight as a steel J frame when loaded? I have carried steel J frames in my pocket and on my ankle, along with the similiar size and weight PP/PPK.
It is actually my .25 that I use as an ankle gun now. I quit carrying the J frame OWB as it seemed out of place there. I bought an Alessi pull through shoulder holster (and larger grips) for my 442 and use those. For OWB carry, I just wear the CZ. It is large, and heavy, but has good night sights, not much recoil and a 19+1 capacity.
My friend snagged a Ruger AR for $509 but I over slept and did not get to Shiptons til a few minutes after 5 am.The line for guns was long enough to convince me to leave well enough alone after all.
So I contented myself with a brick of Federal .22lr Classic for $24.99and a $9.99Walls jacket plus some gloves
Isn't a Shield about the same weight as a steel J frame when loaded? I have carried steel J frames in my pocket and on my ankle, along with the similiar size and weight PP/PPK.
It is actually my .25 that I use as an ankle gun now. I quit carrying the J frame OWB as it seemed out of place there. I bought an Alessi pull through shoulder holster (and larger grips) for my 442 and use those. For OWB carry, I just wear the CZ. It is large, and heavy, but has good night sights, not much recoil and a 19+1 capacity.
My friend snagged a Ruger AR for $509 but I over slept and did not get to Shiptons til a few minutes after 5 am.The line for guns was long enough to convince me to leave well enough alone after all.
So I contented myself with a brick of Federal .22lr Classic for $24.99and a $9.99Walls jacket plus some gloves
The fully enclosed hammer models work flawlessly in this mode of shooting. The Shrouded hammer revolvers usually work fine providing nothing is allowed to works it's way down into the shroud and into the action. By "cut down", I'm assuming you're referring to a gun that has been rendered DAO and had the exposed hammer spur ground off. Such guns will often have problems if fired from inside a pocket or purse.
johnnywitt
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Yes, I agree X, the cut down hammers are not ideal. A Centennial is the ideal.
BUT, if a person already has a hammer model, I would still cut the hammer down to facilitate gun deployment out of purse or pocket: holster carry, I would want the hammer.
Unless it's a Classic Pre Lock, or something of that nature. That would be heresy ha ha.
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Aw come on,
Aw come on, that's hardly fair. What you say about 'J' frames is right, but other pistols haven't been around as long as that that people consider 'proven'. Especially if it's been out in an LEO or military field for more than a few years, it has a reputation. Glocks and Rugers come to mind. I have a Smith 'J' frame because I think they are best out of production models, but I wouldn't feel uncomfortable with another gun.
Aw come on, that's hardly fair. What you say about 'J' frames is right, but other pistols haven't been around as long as that that people consider 'proven'. Especially if it's been out in an LEO or military field for more than a few years, it has a reputation. Glocks and Rugers come to mind. I have a Smith 'J' frame because I think they are best out of production models, but I wouldn't feel uncomfortable with another gun.
Priority number one is that it always goes bang. I own several Glock's which I think the world of and feel are at the pinnacle of reliability in the polymer pistol platform, but they or any autoloader can't compete with the reliability of a revolver.
johnnywitt
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Yes, #1 quality in BUG-Goes Bang ha ha.
I thinks it's important to distinguish between small BUG pistols of ANY reputable Manufacturer & their Full Sized & Compact brethren.
I unhesitantly will pick up my G19 to defend my life or my Familys', but I wouldn't carry this to a Shield, or a G43. It's a J Frame or a... gasp, Ruger LCR for me. To be fair though, the Shield is really too big to be a BUG IMO. Too big for ankle or pocket carry as well. Some will disagree. FBI ankle carries G26 all day long & Sun. too.
Disclosure: I don't own a Ruger revolver, but I hear they are GTG (ugly little buggers though, if I do say).
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