RESPONSE CARBINE 9MM

[IAM Rand]

If they made it in 45 then they better make the Metal in 45 also. I have both the FPC and Metal and love both of them. I have never been one of those, 45 is the only true cartridge or 10mm is the best.

The best cartridge is what you can shoot accurately and quicker than the other guy. I am not that much of a snob. I have seen 380 kill someone and larger round not. It can be a crapshoot depending on who is holding the gun. That is why I really don't put much stock into shooting Jello. Way too many variables.

 

[ladder13]

I have the FPC. Will get one of these too. Probably before month's end. Excited about it.

Swimming against the tide again? I like that.

 

[NCBeagle]

I bought one a few minutes ago, from my friends at Carolina Sporting Arms in Charlotte, NC. Feels good in hand. Lightweight. It comes with the Glock magazine adapter, backstraps, two mags. I'll probably swap the Holosun optic back and forth from my Smith FPC. Range report this weekend.

Here are some photos.

 

[marvin02]

@NCBeagle - pics of the internals would be nice when you take it apart for cleaning. The barrel and handguard look like they are very similar to the FPC.

 

[NCBeagle]

@NCBeagle - pics of the internals would be nice when you take it apart for cleaning. The barrel and handguard look like they are very similar to the FPC.

Will post some internal pics this evening or tomorrow. Yes, it feels a lot like the FPC in hand. I assume that the bolt is similar.

 

[deadduck357]

Will post some internal pics this evening or tomorrow. Yes, it feels a lot like the FPC in hand. I assume that the bolt is similar.

Please do. I'm excited about this PCC. I am curious if there is any metal reinforcement inside the upper for the bolt to ride on and how the barrel is attached to the poly upper.

 

[reccpd101]

Looks like we have a new entry into the Smith & Wesson Long Gun category.

Not sure why they did this after just releasing the FPC…. But whatever.

Looks like GAG, Buds, and SMGA has have them in stock ready to ship for $699. That’s unusual for a new product. Good sign of things to come from Tennessee.

https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/response

They did it to capture the glock magazine crowd but I wish they had combined the two. The glock is the most commonly issued LE handgun. I'll bet the next caliber Response is in .40. I have both the 9 and 40 kel-tec slightly tricked out. I love PCC I started with a Winchester 92 converted very well to 357. In 1977, it matched my M-66 duty gun. A family emergency forced it's sale and I have never found another. I still have the M-66.

At the time I got the 40 kel-tec, my duty gun was a Beretta 96 in 40. My 40 kel-tec took the 96 magazine. M.any other magazine options were available.

The old time lawmen and cowboys were on to something with the 44-40 Colts and Winchesters. In fact, I got the idea from reading reports from my predecessors in the US Marshals.

 

[NCBeagle]

Please do. I'm excited about this PCC. I am curious if there is any metal reinforcement inside the upper for the bolt to ride on and how the barrel is attached to the poly upper.

Just started a new thread for disassembled photos

 

[vegasgunhand]

If you're looking for a PCC, then I think could be a very viable contender. Glock doesn't make a PCC, so if you carry a Glock 9mm this would be a great companion. There are many choices for PCCs that use different magazines already, so no real innovation here, but I think it will be a solid PCC for anyone who needs one.

 

[marvin02]

Honest Outlaw first shots:

New S&W Response 9mm Carbine First Shots: An Affordable, Lightweight PCC - YouTube

 

[LVSteve]

I don't know why some are getting bent out of shape over the polymer receiver. What do they think a M&P 9 uses? As for the bolt running directly on polymer (I assume) Ruger managed that with the P95 series pistols with no ill effects. As for chamber support, if it is insufficient for a reloader's needs, that is of no interest to 95% or more of the expected market of this carbine.

 

[Dave686]

I don't know why some are getting bent out of shape over the polymer receiver. What do they think a M&P 9 uses?

A stainless steel chassis. Does this use a stainless steel chassis?

 

[ChiefTJS]

10mm and .45acp, then we'll talk.

 

[LVSteve]

A stainless steel chassis. Does this use a stainless steel chassis?

In the M&P the steel chassis is inside a polymer frame, so it's probably a bad example. Does stuff move around? I don't know, but there are plenty of other polymer pistols out there where the front and rear slide rails don't live on the same chassis but with no ill effects.

Looking at the pictures in NCBeagle's other thread, the fire control parts are in a chassis arrangement. I suppose the argument will be that the polymer upper of the Response is not sufficient to support the barrel, shades of the plastic trunnion in the G36. I don't see this as a problem in 9mm, but I'm not a polymer scientist and neither have I played one on TV.

 

[BLUEDOT37]

As for chamber support, if it is insufficient for a reloader's needs, that is of no interest to 95% or more of the expected market of this carbine.

Of the all metal pistol caliber AR pistols we have none have a fully supported chamber so the hottest load I can safely shoot in my 3rd Gens, without bulging, will bulge in the PC-AR pistols so they get "down loaded" ammo.

It's the price you have to pay as a handloader & a 5%'er.

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[1sailor]

I like 9mm carbines. I own a ruger carbine in 9mm. The thing that I don't fully understand though is why every darn carbine has to look so "bad a** tactical". Why can't we just have a little carbine that is fun to take out to the range or the woods. I don't need to install a light, or a laser, or a microwave. I understand that plastic is cheap and I don't have any real problem with it. But why does everything have to look like an AR or some other "super cool" platform. How about one that looks more in line with an M1 carbine or a 10/22 or something.

 

[marvin02]

. . . The thing that I don't fully understand though is why every darn carbine has to look so "bad a** tactical".

Many don't:

Ruger PC Carbine Model 19100

Henry Homesteader

Keltec Sub 2K - looks like someone put a couple of handles on a stick.

Hi-Point Carbine - looks like someone stopped before they got done carving away everything that isn't a rifle.

I think it's the black plastic many are made from. My wife tells me any of my black rifles look evil, the same gun with wood furniture she likes.

 

[THE PILGRIM]

The Henry probably comes closest to the one 1Sailor’s wants.
If I buy one, it’ll probably be the Ruger.

 

[mike4sigs]

Wonder if a 45 acp version will follow?

i am hoping for A 40 cal also.

 

[1sailor]

Perhaps many don't look like AR's but they still always seem like they need to look tactical. The Sub2000 was mentioned. While it does not look like an AR it does still look like a submachinegun. I guess I really know the answer to this, but it still bugs me.