"Course" opinions are like exhaust pipes....Everybody's got one......Including Claude.
Revolvers are passe - Claude Werner
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Been pondering Claude's and others' opinions for a day.
First, he's talking "production" not "sales." If the two terms were synonymous car dealerships wouldn't need to have huge sales after September each year.
Anyone can use statistics to sell any point they want. I'm not buying in.
B'lieve I'll just continue to trust my blued steel with a 5-holed wheel.
Cheers,
Bob
First, he's talking "production" not "sales." If the two terms were synonymous car dealerships wouldn't need to have huge sales after September each year.
Anyone can use statistics to sell any point they want. I'm not buying in.
B'lieve I'll just continue to trust my blued steel with a 5-holed wheel.
Cheers,
Bob
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The_Truth
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Great discussion here. I love reading all the love for revolvers. I'm what I would consider "younger generation" to most of you fine gentlemen, being in my very early 30s.
That being said, I would sell every last one of my semi autos before I even considered selling any of my S&W revolvers. Only semi auto I'm somewhat emotionally attached to is my Virginia State Police issued Model 1076.
Although I very regularly carry a semi auto, I'd say about 55% of the time I carry a revolver. I have one subcompact .40 that's my "pocket semi auto" but the rest of my semi autos are 10mm. Owned a G42 for a short time but quickly traded it away because I straight up didn't trust .380.
Now I'm getting long winded.
The nostalgia and pure beauty of blued steel and walnut is irreplaceable, especially with plastic. Whether it's my Model 13 3", my Model 29 3" Lew Horton overrun, my Model 36 snubbie, or my 296 Ti if I'm feeling saucy, they all make my heart warm with comfort and safety, and I feel the love like I did watching my Dad pocket his Model 15 snubbie throughout my entire childhood.
Long live the wheel gun!!!
That being said, I would sell every last one of my semi autos before I even considered selling any of my S&W revolvers. Only semi auto I'm somewhat emotionally attached to is my Virginia State Police issued Model 1076.
Although I very regularly carry a semi auto, I'd say about 55% of the time I carry a revolver. I have one subcompact .40 that's my "pocket semi auto" but the rest of my semi autos are 10mm. Owned a G42 for a short time but quickly traded it away because I straight up didn't trust .380.
Now I'm getting long winded.
The nostalgia and pure beauty of blued steel and walnut is irreplaceable, especially with plastic. Whether it's my Model 13 3", my Model 29 3" Lew Horton overrun, my Model 36 snubbie, or my 296 Ti if I'm feeling saucy, they all make my heart warm with comfort and safety, and I feel the love like I did watching my Dad pocket his Model 15 snubbie throughout my entire childhood.
Long live the wheel gun!!!
photoman
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I have never owned a .380 and have never even considered one. I don't feel that I'm missing out on anything.
I've been shooting handguns for over four decades and didn't buy a .380 until two years ago. They are a lot of fun to shoot! I even carry a G42 once in a while.
cadmike
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When given the choice between a .38 special j frame and any .380 auto, for concealed carry, I'd have to go with the j frame all day long. That being said, I can totally understand why some people would choose an LCP in 9mm over the j frame. To each their own, but for now I'll remain a proud member of team J.
photoman
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True, but they are also capable of being called a "Saturday Night Special" and demonized that way. I remember that happening in the not too distant past...
When I used to sell guns part time at retail store (for the employee discount, not the money) probably 25% of my customers were women and usually accompanied by a boyfriend or husband (the 'experts'). Those guys would frequently recommend semi autos that they liked. Many of the women couldn't rack the weapon (except the pricier Sig's). It was always a challenge to explain the ease of use of a wheel gun, the lack of a safety to worry about remembering when in a dangerous situation, the easier maintenance/cleaning etc. with the expert around. But if she was strong enough to make her own choice she usually went home with a 642.
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Kadonny
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You can never go wrong with a 642, ever.
I had a similar experience in Vegas, except the ladies were madams at the "House of the Rising Sun" (thank you Eric Burton and the Animals for the euphemism) north of the Clark County line. They would buy every "new girl" a Model 36 (hey, it was the early '80s).
HamHands
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I'm 41 years old and have been shooting competitively for 25 years, and CCW-ing for over 20 years. I have more revolvers than I have semi-auto's with an absolute affinity for .38 J and D frame snubs for street and hot .44Spec and Magnum for woods. It's all about the right tool for the job. Say a 10:50pm race to CVS to get children's cough medicine before the 11pm closing time where we live in the burbs... that's a pair of 5 shot J frames with hot full wad-cutter hard casts. When going downtown Atlanta to visit my accounts that's a CZ P-01 9mm with 16+1 capacity with a spare magazine. Nightly dog walks and that's a 3" N frame stoked with 200grain .44Specials and a reload for coyotes or something out of place (we have had trash recently come this way to prey upon the nicer parts/unsuspecting people)... At the Mountain Home where we have an already relocated and destructive Black Bear... Its the same 3" N frame stoked with Hard Cast Keiths in .44Special or Hard Cast .44Mag Keiths from Underwood. A "Katrina" situation and that's always a short barreled AR15 or AK... You get the picture.
Revolvers have a very valid place in the carry rotation in my life and aren't going anywhere!
Revolvers have a very valid place in the carry rotation in my life and aren't going anywhere!
HamHands
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Hahaha, I see what you did there! My personal favorite "clip" fed is the M1 Garand!
4thAlabama
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I think a lot of the craze for high capacity autos is due to popular films that show people firing hundreds of rounds, occasionally changing magazines. If you are not being attacked by hundreds of people a sixgun works pretty well just like it always has. While deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan, we always carried a minimum of 210 rounds for our M4/M16s. Different situation here and for most self defense purposes I feel better with the revolver. Plus for home defense, even if it sits in the drawer for 10 years, it will still fire all rounds reliably. The autos magazine spring may or may not work well after being compressed for a long time.
Also, for us handloaders, it is nice not to crawl around looking for brass and being happy when we find 90%. Being able to fire a wide range of different velocities, shorter factory ammo also gives the nod to the revolver. Perhaps if I watched more action movies, I too would develop a preference for autos. That said, I do own several (all steel) and even carry the Colt Government Model frequently for self defense.
Also, for us handloaders, it is nice not to crawl around looking for brass and being happy when we find 90%. Being able to fire a wide range of different velocities, shorter factory ammo also gives the nod to the revolver. Perhaps if I watched more action movies, I too would develop a preference for autos. That said, I do own several (all steel) and even carry the Colt Government Model frequently for self defense.
GF
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I've been passe for about 10 years.
So I'll carry my J frame with the same125 gr ammo I've always used and be just as happy as when I was in vogue.
GF
So I'll carry my J frame with the same125 gr ammo I've always used and be just as happy as when I was in vogue.
GF
ABPOS
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...then explain to me why the asking prices of revolvers made in the '50s, '60s, '70s and '80s keep going up - and why people buy them at those prices?
The answers are quality, durability, reliability, simplicity of operation, accuracy, a wide choice of operable power levels and pride of owning a gun with wonderful craftsmanship.
And if five or six shots won't do it, the answer is: practice more and make every shot count. Spray and pray is stupid and dangerous.
John
The answers are quality, durability, reliability, simplicity of operation, accuracy, a wide choice of operable power levels and pride of owning a gun with wonderful craftsmanship.
And if five or six shots won't do it, the answer is: practice more and make every shot count. Spray and pray is stupid and dangerous.
John
There are always several schools of thought. So we have accomplished a great thing here - we have disagreed without being disagreeable. Well done, y'all!
I won't say I never carried a plastic fantastic pistol because I have but NOT in .380. 9mm if I carry a pistol, even in a compact pistol I can get between 9 to 12 rounds depending on the gun. Okay, 7 if I carry a CS-45.
Still, most days I carry a M649. A better shooter than a lightweight J frame and just as easy to conceal.
Like HamHands I carry different pistols depending on what I'm doing and where I'm doing it. Routinely carry the 642 for errands around town. Kahr single stack .45 stays in the truck...not the end of the world if someone steals it. Sig P226 in .40 if I'm in the hood. Colt Lawman .357 if I'm out in remote locations, which is frequently. Walther PPS M2 in church (I'm the security director there...it's a shame we need such positions). Nothing wrong with a quality semi auto but the wheel guns are more reliable and downright sexy.
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HamHands
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This... when you are going different places for different duties you wear different attire. You dress nice for work, even nicer for formal events, dress down for the gym, and even more so for doing choirs... Guns are the same... Different guns and platforms for what the situation/duty calls for. Whatever you carry make sure you are proficient with it and it is concealable and applicable to the duty you are performing... We are all here because we enjoy shooting, protecting our families & ourselves, and for our jobs. All of those can intertwine at times it seems so shoot what works and shoot often...
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