Rossi R92 .357 Mag. Carbine Ammo

Skinner makes a barrel mount peep sight that fits 3/8” dovetails. I have found it to really clean up the sight picture.

Way back in the day I used a very vintage - even at the time (late 1980s) 1903A1 Springfield to shoot a service rifle match, just for fun and as something different from my M1A. I couldn’t get points for the match anyway so there was no downside.
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The 1903A1 used a barrel mounted sight that served as a battle sight when folded down and as an adjustable sight when erected, with a U notch at the top but also a peep sight below it.

Back in the 1930s they had a micrometer device that let you precisely adjust the sight for National Match shooting. 50 years later it still worked as well as it ever did, but…it also made it very clear to me how much better a receiver mounted peep sight was for a number of reasons, even with 23 year old eyes.

1) A receiver sight is close enough to your eye that your eye naturally centers the front sight in the center of the rear aperture.

2) A receiver sight serves an an aperture just like a camera aperture and increases the depth of field of your eye. That means you are able to see things in sharp or at least sharper focus over a much broader range of distance. That can improve the target image while focusing on the front sight. As you age you’ll find it also allows you to focus on the front sight without glasses.

3) Many receiver sights also allow you to use an adjustable aperture or install different sized apertures. That lets you adjust the amount of light going through the aperture to optimize the depth of field effects without dimming the image in lower light. A large aperture or ghost ring aperture is also ideal for short range and snap shooting and shooting at fast moving targets.

A tang sight is mounted a bit farther back and increases all of the above benefits over a receiver sight. That’s particularly true with exposed hammer fired lever guns as the receiver sight is often farther forward than it is on many other designs.


THIS IS A 60,000 psi action. You can really go ham on the ammo they will eat.

The Rossi 92 is a product improved version of the Winchester 1892. Rossi was making their version of the 1892 in modern magnum pistol rounds for over 40 years before Winchester got back in the 1892 game again with modern magnum pistol cartridges.

However, the Winchester Model 1892 was already a very strong action as it was just a downsized 1886 action. With the exception of the 1885 High Wall, the 1892 was the strongest action Winchester ever made prior to the Model 54 bolt action rifle.

For a M92 60,000 psi is conservative, especially with the small .357 case head diameters. Rossi chambered its Model 92 in the .454 Casull for a few years and it’s a 65,000 psi cartridge, even though most factory loads run a round 55,000 psi. Rossi also made a limited production run of Model 92s in .480 Ruger which is a 48,000 psi round, but with a larger case head diameter and area (and thus greater bolt thrust) as well as thinner chamber walls in the M92 compared to the .454 Casull.

Both of those Model 92s used a magazine tube that threaded into the receiver due to the particularly stout recoil. Even with a rubber butt pad recoil was fierce with the .454 Casull and sales were not worth the different manufacturing steps and parts required and Rossi discontinued it in 2015. Interestingly, Rossi brought it back recently in the 20” carbine model, so we’ll see how it sells.

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However, the limiting factor pressure wise is often the brass. For example, you can load .45 Colt to 50,000 psi in a M92, but brass life is exceedingly short as the the tapered chamber dimensions work the brass excessively and you get spider cracks in the sidewalls. I load my .45 Colt M92 ammo down around 32,000 psi and if I need more performance I’ll buy a M92 in .454 Casull.
 
Skinner makes a barrel mount peep sight that fits 3/8” dovetails. I have found it to really clean up the sight picture.
This is a 60,000 psi action. You can really go ham on the ammo they will eat.


Ditto; Squidsix gave you some good advice; check out the Skinner website............... I've used several of his barrel mount peep sights..... Winchester Trapper in .357 ...... on other rifles as backup to scopes.
 
Way back in the day I used a very vintage - even at the time (late 1980s) 1903A1 Springfield to shoot a service rifle match, just for fun and as something different from my M1A. I couldn’t get points for the match anyway so there was no downside.
U
The 1903A1 used a barrel mounted sight that served as a battle sight when folded down and as an adjustable sight when erected, with a U notch at the top but also a peep sight below it.

Back in the 1930s they had a micrometer device that let you precisely adjust the sight for National Match shooting. 50 years later it still worked as well as it ever did, but…it also made it very clear to me how much better a receiver mounted peep sight was for a number of reasons, even with 23 year old eyes.

1) A receiver sight is close enough to your eye that your eye naturally centers the front sight in the center of the rear aperture.

2) A receiver sight serves an an aperture just like a camera aperture and increases the depth of field of your eye. That means you are able to see things in sharp or at least sharper focus over a much broader range of distance. That can improve the target image while focusing on the front sight. As you age you’ll find it also allows you to focus on the front sight without glasses.

3) Many receiver sights also allow you to use an adjustable aperture or install different sized apertures. That lets you adjust the amount of light going through the aperture to optimize the depth of field effects without dimming the image in lower light. A large aperture or ghost ring aperture is also ideal for short range and snap shooting and shooting at fast moving targets.

A tang sight is mounted a bit farther back and increases all of the above benefits over a receiver sight. That’s particularly true with exposed hammer fired lever guns as the receiver sight is often farther forward than it is on many other designs.




The Rossi 92 is a product improved version of the Winchester 1892. Rossi was making their version of the 1892 in modern magnum pistol rounds for over 40 years before Winchester got back in the 1892 game again with modern magnum pistol cartridges.

However, the Winchester Model 1892 was already a very strong action as it was just a downsized 1886 action. With the exception of the 1885 High Wall, the 1892 was the strongest action Winchester ever made prior to the Model 54 bolt action rifle.

For a M92 60,000 psi is conservative, especially with the small .357 case head diameters. Rossi chambered its Model 92 in the .454 Casull for a few years and it’s a 65,000 psi cartridge, even though most factory loads run a round 55,000 psi. Rossi also made a limited production run of Model 92s in .480 Ruger which is a 48,000 psi round, but with a larger case head diameter and area (and thus greater bolt thrust) as well as thinner chamber walls in the M92 compared to the .454 Casull.

Both of those Model 92s used a magazine tube that threaded into the receiver due to the particularly stout recoil. Even with a rubber butt pad recoil was fierce with the .454 Casull and sales were not worth the different manufacturing steps and parts required and Rossi discontinued it in 2015. Interestingly, Rossi brought it back recently in the 20” carbine model, so we’ll see how it sells.

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However, the limiting factor pressure wise is often the brass. For example, you can load .45 Colt to 50,000 psi in a M92, but brass life is exceedingly short as the the tapered chamber dimensions work the brass excessively and you get spider cracks in the sidewalls. I load my .45 Colt M92 ammo down around 32,000 psi and if I need more performance I’ll buy a M92 in .454 Casull.

Those tang mounted sights cost a lot. The dovetail ones cost a fraction of them.
 
FWIW am a longtime 2400 user & especially in 357 revolvers with stout cast loads . With the longer barrel a slower powder is your friend as you'll get better velocity & accuracy at same or less pressure . If you hunt longer tube begs for 180's , as they increase killing ability enough to make it viable to my self-imposed limit of 75yds . I really like the LBT or NOE 180 WFN @ 1700fps out a 20" 1 in 16 twist . 158's stick with JSPs , most JHPs are explosive at higher speeds from longer tube .
 
Those tang mounted sights cost a lot. The dovetail ones cost a fraction of them.

Meh…you get what you pay for.

The Skinner barrel mounted sight is $55. Sometimes it works with the existing front sight, but often it doesn’t and anew front sight adds $18, so $55 to $73

The Skinner receiver sight is $80, but then you need a new front sight for $18, so $98 total.

The Lyman No. 2 tang sight is $117.

The Marbles tang sight is $123.

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So the difference between a barrel mounted peep sight and something better is $25 to $68.

At current prices that’s the price of .75 to 2 boxes of .357 Magnum ammo at current Ammoseek prices. Once you’ve missed 35- 100 times with the cheaper sight, you are losing money.

Miss a nice buck and you’re losing money a lot sooner.
 
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At current prices that’s the price of .75 to 2 boxes of .357 Magnum ammo at current Ammoseek prices.


I'm trying to remember the last time I bought .357 Magnum ammunition. :) It had to have been in the last ten years because I have an (untouched) box of Barnes ammo here (must have seen a heck of a sale).

My Marble tang sight (given to me out of the blue by a very kind friend right here on the forum) works great for me at the range, but I'd hesitate to say it's "better" than something else. I'd use the reviled-but-surprisingly-handy buckhorns for a fairly quick shot, which seems more likely than a benched/braced shot at the sub-200-yard ranges where I'd be using this .357 carbine. If I were buying another .357 lever (and I may be soon: it'll probably be a Ruger/Marlin 1894 .357; supposedly coming off the lines next now that the 1895s are here), I'd probably go with a Skinner aperture on the receiver instead of another Marble's. I'd suppose what's best will depend on the fella who's running the gun and how he uses it. It sure is nice to have options. :) What a country, right?!

 
Whatever sights work for YOUR eyes may be personal, but likely worth the money no matter what. Good sights and decent trigger will go a long way to making your shooting better. With my eyes, I am moving more and more to red dots. The cost is worth it to me in order to get better performance.
 
This is great information for the future IF I ever find one of these unicorns, my eyes are not what they used to be. All this talk has me kicking myself for not getting one pre-pandemic. I'm gonna have to visit my local dealers next week and see what they say.
 
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I got this one down to 32” total, and can still cycle it against my shoulder and not put the bolt into my glasses.
Shorter gold bead front sight, and Skinner barrel mounted peep. Side mounted sing setup, a small rubber buttpad, and refinished wood.
I removed the factory safety, then cut it and made it into a plug for itself. I used a piece of the factory buttplate to fill the space that it left when removed.
I can get 5 empty brass in the air at one time with it. I hated the large loop, but was able to get a standard lever and sell the large loop for more than I paid.
Like I said, it shoots 180s beautifully.
 

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I got this one down to 32” total, and can still cycle it against my shoulder and not put the bolt into my glasses.
Shorter gold bead front sight, and Skinner barrel mounted peep. Side mounted sing setup, a small rubber buttpad, and refinished wood.
I removed the factory safety, then cut it and made it into a plug for itself. I used a piece of the factory buttplate to fill the space that it left when removed.
I can get 5 empty brass in the air at one time with it. I hated the large loop, but was able to get a standard lever and sell the large loop for more than I paid.
Like I said, it shoots 180s beautifully.


Looks good. Mine will be a work in progress, if I don't tire of it first.
 
Meh…you get what you pay for.

The Skinner barrel mounted sight is $55. Sometimes it works with the existing front sight, but often it doesn’t and anew front sight adds $18, so $55 to $73

The Skinner receiver sight is $80, but then you need a new front sight for $18, so $98 total.

The Lyman No. 2 tang sight is $117.

The Marbles tang sight is $123.

——

So the difference between a barrel mounted peep sight and something better is $25 to $68.

At current prices that’s the price of .75 to 2 boxes of .357 Magnum ammo at current Ammoseek prices. Once you’ve missed 35- 100 times with the cheaper sight, you are losing money.

Miss a nice buck and you’re losing money a lot sooner.

Mini 14 front sights are a tapered post. Remove the bead and some judicious file work, then some touch-up blue, would do the same to a Rossi front sight.
 
Most of the ugly Rossi furniture just needs to be stripped, sanded, stained, and oiled. The three I have had were unsightly but had nice wood under the terrible factory finish.
 
Just of that one up there^.
I didnt keep the other two.
That .357 carbine had terrible red brown paint over the wood you see now.
I dont have “before” pics because I dont really care about the transformation as much as the end product.
 
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