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At what range was that shot? One or two hands? How rapidly did you shoot?
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At what range was that shot? One or two hands? How rapidly did you shoot?
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I like my Colt Junior 25 loaded with Hornady hollow points as my BUG. There's just something about plastic guns that rubs me the wrong way.
revolvergeek
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I have about 125 rounds through mine so far. Other than a couple initial failures to eject on the last round with one magazine it has been reliable with Rem UMC FMJ and WWB FMJ-FP. Accuracy is perfectly acceptable. I went to it because every single Keltec pistol that I have foolishly bought broke on me.
That said, I suppose it has to do with the size of my hands, but I find this a more punishing gun to shoot than my 342 Airlite Ti. I shot most of those 125 rounds in one short range session last week and my hands are still sore four days later.
That said, I suppose it has to do with the size of my hands, but I find this a more punishing gun to shoot than my 342 Airlite Ti. I shot most of those 125 rounds in one short range session last week and my hands are still sore four days later.
Sir, a buddy of mine has one and likes it. After one magazine through the little beast, I was eager to go back to my .45. Like many small blowback .380s, the LCP's recoil gets your attention. It also stovepiped on both me and its owner. My buddy said he hadn't cleaned it in a while and attributed the jams to that. I suspect it's more a matter of lube than cleanliness, but would need more experience with it to say for sure.
Hope this helps, and Semper Fi.
Ron H.
A client of mine is an older lady who has been threatened. She wants a handgun for home protection and is considering getting a carry permit. She bought a S&W 442 but has a hard time pulling the trigger. She is slight of build and has weak hands. I had her shoot several of my J-frames and even a few K-frames that had what I thought were fairly light trigger pulls and she had a lot of trouble. She is seriously considering an LCP, mostly because she can rack the slide fairly easily. She shot my Glock 27 and Kahr PM40 without any trouble, but I chambered the rounds, she couldn't do it.
Are there any slightly built women on here who can comment on the LCP? Or I'd be open to other suggestions.
Thanks.
Jim
Are there any slightly built women on here who can comment on the LCP? Or I'd be open to other suggestions.
Thanks.
Jim
JamesArthur60
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Another LCP carrier here, 99% of the time. Mine has been reliable. In fact, I find I drop in my pocket during the winter months as well, instead of carrying a larger gun in a OWB holster.
Sir, if she can't manage the DA trigger on a J-frame, the LCP probably isn't going to work for her, either. The LCP's DAO trigger is very long and quite stiff. I have DA revolvers with easier triggers.
Was it me, I'd suggest a J-frame with an exposed hammer so she can cock the piece manually. I know that single-action revolver shooting isn't accepted "tactical doctrine" these days, but it's about the only option for those whose hands are too weak for DA shooting or racking the slide on an auto.
JMHO, FWIW.
Hope this helps, and Semper Fi.
Ron H.
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I agree that I prefer some forged blue steel with walnut in my hands, but honestly stainless and polymer beat traditional methods everyday for legitmate use/carry. What does the trigger on the LCP come in at? I fondled one at my local dealer's shop when they were brand new. I remember it seemed really long, but it didn't feel overly heavy or anything.
THE problem with that combo - SemiAuto & WeakHands - is clearing a jam in panic mode... Ya might as well have a small rock in your hands.
There are a lot of SA revolvers that are easy to cock and easier to operate the trigger.
A DA revolver with a *fair* trigger and a lot of dry fire practice will help both the revolver and her hand(s).
Take the nice lady to a gun store and have her try guns till she finds one that she can operate.
An appropriate purse makes CC a cinch for women.
There are a lot of SA revolvers that are easy to cock and easier to operate the trigger.
A DA revolver with a *fair* trigger and a lot of dry fire practice will help both the revolver and her hand(s).
Take the nice lady to a gun store and have her try guns till she finds one that she can operate.
An appropriate purse makes CC a cinch for women.
ldausmc1369
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Elsie Pea!
I have had Elsie for over a year now. Fired probably 200+ rounds through her. Nary a hiccup! Kicks like the devil. Not a range gun by any means. Like someone else said, it's like my AMEX card, I just don't leave home without it! As the old PMI on the .45 ACP at Parris Island said, lo, these many years ago, "you don't need a pistol 'til you need a pistol". Have had use for one in a quasi defense position only once in over 40 years, but that once was comforting and the perp's anal sphincter was much looser after looking down the business end of a Colt 1911-A1 up close and personal. Later told my LEO brother it looked like a 5" gun!
Buy an Elsie Pea! I carried a post war Walther PPK for many years and now it just sits in the safe looking lonely!
I have had Elsie for over a year now. Fired probably 200+ rounds through her. Nary a hiccup! Kicks like the devil. Not a range gun by any means. Like someone else said, it's like my AMEX card, I just don't leave home without it! As the old PMI on the .45 ACP at Parris Island said, lo, these many years ago, "you don't need a pistol 'til you need a pistol". Have had use for one in a quasi defense position only once in over 40 years, but that once was comforting and the perp's anal sphincter was much looser after looking down the business end of a Colt 1911-A1 up close and personal. Later told my LEO brother it looked like a 5" gun!
Buy an Elsie Pea! I carried a post war Walther PPK for many years and now it just sits in the safe looking lonely!
Texas Star
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Ruger Standard .22 auto with 4.75-inch bbl., preferably in stainless. Whichever good JHP load feeds best in it and shoots well.
Shoot it enough to break it in and be sure it feeds well.
Massad Ayoob has recommended the tip-action barrel Beretta .25's for ladies with arthritic hands, but I haven't tried cocking the hammer on one. That might be tough.
If you find a really clean Colt Woodsman or one of its spin-offs, like a Huntman, that'd work, too. But the grips might be a little thick for a slightly built lady.
I can't offhand think of a good carry gun for her. The Ruger .22 will work for home or car. And recoil is very modest.
Good luck to her.
T-Star
I thought about the tip-up guns, but have no experience with them. Does anyone make them in larger calibers than .25 ACP?
A previous poster suggested a revolver with exposed hammer she could cock. I thought of that too, and she could do that with my M36 and M13, but LOWERING the hammer without firing was a bit tricky. Fortunately we tried it with an empty gun. She could probably do it with practice, but in a stressful situation I don't want something else to go wrong. She likes the LCP and has no problem with the trigger pull and can manipulate the slide. Unless somebody comes up with a better idea that's probably what she'll buy.
Then I'm going to spend a LOT of time training her!
A previous poster suggested a revolver with exposed hammer she could cock. I thought of that too, and she could do that with my M36 and M13, but LOWERING the hammer without firing was a bit tricky. Fortunately we tried it with an empty gun. She could probably do it with practice, but in a stressful situation I don't want something else to go wrong. She likes the LCP and has no problem with the trigger pull and can manipulate the slide. Unless somebody comes up with a better idea that's probably what she'll buy.
Then I'm going to spend a LOT of time training her!
revolvergeek
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I think the Beretta 86 was the tip up barrel .380. Not sure if they still make it though.
Honestly, after shooting my lcp I can't imagine recommending to to anybody, man or woman, with low hand strength. It is a bear to hang onto.
In think that a Ruger Mkii/iii or a Browning Buckmark loaded with the hottest 22 ammo that it will cycle reliable might not be a bad plan. Cheap and easy to practice with and the more she shoots the faster and more accurately she can put rounds on target.
This may sound odd, but you should have her check out a 1911a1 in 9mmp also. Due to the heavy slides they typically have pretty light recoil springs and the ones that I have shot feel more like shooting a big 22 than anything else.
A good gunsmith can do wonders for a small revolver. You would not believe the trigger on a 640-1 by Karl Sokol that I have shot.
Honestly, after shooting my lcp I can't imagine recommending to to anybody, man or woman, with low hand strength. It is a bear to hang onto.
In think that a Ruger Mkii/iii or a Browning Buckmark loaded with the hottest 22 ammo that it will cycle reliable might not be a bad plan. Cheap and easy to practice with and the more she shoots the faster and more accurately she can put rounds on target.
This may sound odd, but you should have her check out a 1911a1 in 9mmp also. Due to the heavy slides they typically have pretty light recoil springs and the ones that I have shot feel more like shooting a big 22 than anything else.
A good gunsmith can do wonders for a small revolver. You would not believe the trigger on a 640-1 by Karl Sokol that I have shot.
gregintenn
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Here's mine in a homemade pocket holster. How do you carry yours?
The LCP is not a "blowback" design nor is the KT, It is a locked breech. The recoil is very manageable compared to a blowback and not violent at all.
jlynch34
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I had a LCP until one day of shooting at the range. Trigger very long and hard to pull. The gun does carry great. I traded mine for a Ruger LCR in .38 spl which for a small gun has a nice shot crisp trigger pull. I now carry my LCR always and don't miss my LCP at all. I just felt that I couldn't hit anything with the LCP at over 5 yards and with the LCR I can make not bad groups at 25 yards.
Jerry
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My LCP came in last night. I like it. It looks like it will carry well. I will start looking around for a holster soon. I plan to shoot 2 or 3 boxes of hardball through it to break it in before identifying a self defense load for carry purposes. My biggest fear is that it will prove to be unreliable. We will see.
customizedcreationz
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I had an LCP for awhile and then purchased a couple of Sig P238's. I like them much better. Better sights, ergos and accuracy ( all for me atleast ). I know the P238 has had teething issues, as most new guns have ( even the LCP ).
But as soon as I purchased a P238, I sold the LCP. I liked the P238 alot better.
The LCP was good. But I didn't like the sights, the ergos were good until I held a P238.
I believe the LCP is a very good gun. I just happened to like the P238 better thats all.
But as soon as I purchased a P238, I sold the LCP. I liked the P238 alot better.
The LCP was good. But I didn't like the sights, the ergos were good until I held a P238.
I believe the LCP is a very good gun. I just happened to like the P238 better thats all.
'Massad Ayoob has recommended the tip-action barrel Beretta .25's for ladies with arthritic hands, but I haven't tried cocking the hammer on one. That might be tough.'
I have a Beretta 950 Jetfire and the hammer has a good deal of spring pressure and is fairly difficult to cock because of the pressure and the size and shape of the hammer. It is definitely NOT a good choice for somebody suffering from arthritis. The DA version of the tip-barrel Jetfire might be a good choice.
I have a Beretta 950 Jetfire and the hammer has a good deal of spring pressure and is fairly difficult to cock because of the pressure and the size and shape of the hammer. It is definitely NOT a good choice for somebody suffering from arthritis. The DA version of the tip-barrel Jetfire might be a good choice.
