Ruger trying to compete with SD's

[stevewonderful]

Looks like Ruger is trying to compete against pistols in the SD price range. Perhaps trying to regain lost sales when they stopped making the P95. (P95 is a great, rugged, reliable pistol. wish I still had mine.)

The New Ruger 9E? A Low-Cost Ruger SR9 - The Firearm Blog

 

[Buckey08]

No! No way will I buy a First year gun that was built to cut cost to be used to keep my fat butt safe, or any one else their butt safe.

 

[stevewonderful]

No! No way will I buy a First year gun that was built to cut cost to be used to keep my fat butt safe, or any one else their butt safe.

It's not really a new gun. They just changed a few things in the way they manufacture the SR9. It's essentially the same pistol. I think its way better than the SR9 model.

From the article: "As a gun company, you can reduce costs by typically two methods: materials and/or machining. Looking at the changes from the SR9, Ruger used both for the 9E. The most obvious change is the slide serrations. The 9E has wider cuts requiring less machine time. Second up is the sights. The 9E uses smaller dovetails (again, less machine time). On the subtle side, the slides are only available as a matte “Black Oxide” finish instead of the more robust (and expensive) semi-gloss Black Nitride finish. Finally, Ruger no longer has a loaded chamber indicator, now opting for a small visual-inspection port."

 

[leejack]

I actually think it's a good move on Rugers part.

Getting rid of the loaded chamber indicator makes it more appealing to me. Changing the serrations, who cares?

If I didn't own the SD, I'd consider the Ruger at that price point.

 

[VictorLouis]

Ruger did what Kahr did, with their 'CT' line-up. It's not like a brand-new model. From what I've been reading, bugs are all worked-out on the SR9 series.

 

[BigBill]

Kahr has discontinued there model CZ 83 and what's next? I hope not their world famous CZ 75.

My point is the gun market is changing very quickly. There is more competition amongst the gun manufacturers now more than ever.

I can't keep up with who offers the better quality pistol. It took me about 30+ years to pick a pistol in 9mm luger/parabellium. On the back burner right now is do I want a new pistol in 40cal or in 10mm? My love for the standard 1911 in 45acp still rules today. But maybe going plastic just once in my lifetime.

I see ruger and colt models come and go. To me s&w handguns are with standing the test of time. I'd have to go with a s&w.

 

[GKC]

The 9e doesn't have the LCI, which is a good thing, IMO. I actually like the look of the slide serrations better than those on the SR9, but I'd have to see how they feel and work. I could care less what kind of box they come in...I don't use the box for anything anyway.

The 9e ships with only one magazine though, and that I do care about. SR9 magazines can be hard to find, and run about $40. If the gun sells for $350, that's not such a bargain over the SR9, which sells locally for $415 and comes with two magazines.

Now, if the 9e sells closer to $300, then it might be more of a competitor for the SD9VE, because of the trigger...but the SD9VE comes with two magazines, which are pretty easy to find. The SD9VE sells locally for $319 (and occasionally for $289.) It's just hard for anyone to compete with that price, and the SD9VE is just a darn good gun.

If I wanted a Ruger, I'd probably opt for the 9e over the SR9, if the price was closer to $300...but I'd have to see the finish, slide serrations, and sights in person first, before I could decide.

 

[GranCazador]

unless the 9e is priced below the sd I wont be buying one. the finish is the same as the lcp and lc9 and neither are very durable. wear and rust being a problem.

having carried both during the summer, they were notorious for flash rusting after a days carry.

they should've stayed with the stainless slide like the sd.

 

[Nakanokalronin]

It only comes with one mag as well. If I were looking at both right now at the same price point, I'd still get a SD9VE.

 

[MyDads38]

Having the opportunity a few weeks ago to handle/compare the SD9VE and the Ruger SR9; the SR9 definitely had an edge when it came to trigger pull. Otherwise, it could be a real toss-up between the two.

I will say, the S&W really got the grip/feel/ergonomics right on the money with the SDVE pistols. At $339 for the SDVE and $429 for the SR9; I'd have to opt for the SD9VE. It just "feels" better in the hand-mine anyway.

As far as trigger pull goes; I shot PPC with 2-stock S&W 586's; a 4" & 6".
The trigger on the 2-3 SD9VE's that I've had the chance to handle, IMO, have had very nice, smooth pulls; I didn't consider them to be heavy at all. I am surprised about all the comments about the triggers on this line of guns, I just don't consider it to be "bad"-again, my opinion.

It'll be interesting to see how the 9E stacks up to the VE series; I think Ruger may have waited a bit too long for their offering, but we'll see.
S&W has always been my first choice in firearms, Ruger, I won't say is my 2nd choice; they are my next choice, as I have owned several over the years and like S&W, they have never failed in any way.

So many choices, so little money!

 

[leejack]

The trigger on the 2-3 SD9VE's that I've had the chance to handle, IMO, have had very nice, smooth pulls; I didn't consider them to be heavy at all. I am surprised about all the comments about the triggers on this line of guns, I just don't consider it to be "bad"-again, my opinion.

Spot on sir, spot on!

The SD is one sweet gun!

If a cowboy needs a 3-4lb trigger to impress himself at the range, look elsewhere, don't buy an SD!

 

[Florida J Frame]

unless the 9e is priced below the sd I wont be buying one. the finish is the same as the lcp and lc9 and neither are very durable. wear and rust being a problem.

having carried both during the summer, they were notorious for flash rusting after a days carry.

they should've stayed with the stainless slide like the sd.

Interesting, I've been carrying an original LCP in a Mika holster for years and all I've had to clean off it is lint. I've never had a spot of rust and I live in SW Florida. I keep the barrel very lightly oiled and the outside coated with Ren wax. As far as wear, it still looks like new. It's not a pretty finish but it is durable.

 

[BigBill]

Days carrying with rust can be body sweat? I've seen nickel and stainless tarnish with body sweat. We must wipe the gun down with a dry rag, let it air out to dry then silicone it up and use a dry holster. The sweat stained holsters need to be switched out too. I'm not sure how to wash them.

 

[BigBill]

Do you think the ruger, the s&w and glocks are battling against each other for the number one in sales?

 

[scattershot]

If it results in lower prices, I'm all for it. There are some pretty nice plastic guns around now. I'm a steel and walnut kinda guy, but I currently own three Tupperware pistols, and they are growing on me.

 

[Nakanokalronin]

Do you think the ruger, the s&w and glocks are battling against each other for the number one in sales?

No, Glocks are overpriced for what they are. Simple, polymer and stamped metal internals. They should be priced the same as the SD9VE, but I'll give them a little more price increase due to the Melonite (no more Tennifer) treatment. Other than that, they should be $400 (street price) guns.

I own a G19 and G26 only for the commonality of parts. I think the SD9VE is more ergonomic and better looking.

 

[Nebraska12]

I'm new here...but I gotta say, I despise you all. Now I'm looking at SDs! I figure, at their current price point, why not? I don't have a .40...this may fit the bill. Hmmmm....

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[Trenchcoat Vampire]

I gotta say, I like the no-frills, spartan, pull-trigger-go bang model that attracted me to the SD9VE. I trust the Ruger name also, I'll probably end up waiting for a great deal on a 9E and not rush a purchase. Ill grab one fast for $179-189 on sale with cash and 80-day shipping. One can always trade cost for annoyances...the gun industry is practically based on the theory.

 

[shawn mccarver]

I wish S&W would make a similar "Value" version of the M&P. I prefer the M&P trigger over the SDVE Series. That is one reason the Ruger may have an edge over S&W if the SDVE and the Ruger 9E are near the same price point. The Ruger has the ability to easily remove the magazine safety. I just wish it did not have the thumb safety.

Ruger has begun to offer 17 round SR magazines (they will fit both the SR9 and 9E) in two-packs, and one distributor has about 1,000 of the two-packs available as this is written. That will make a nice way to buy the 9E - the pistol and a two pack of mags to make a total of 3 magazines. I wish M&P magazines were more readily available. To be honest, I wish all semi-autos came with three magazines.

 

[R1V3R5]

Happy they changed the loaded chamber indicator. The old one was obnoxious. Think folks are right that they are trying to compete with the S&W Sigma line. And I've seen those for $299 on sale. Don't care for the trigger, but still a lot of gun for the money.