Rust Bluing at Home

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Anybody ever tried their hand at rust bluing at home? I have a Hi-Power clone that isn’t worth paying to refinish, but it needs a re-do.

Was gonna go with one of the several decent brands on the market-any tips/tricks to know beforehand? I’m pretty handy, so this should be in my skillset.
 
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Lot of good videos out there and I have had pretty good results on some old guns using cold blues that have been pretty durable. Getting all the oil off and keeping finger prints off is important as well as getting the best polish on the metal that you can.
 
I tried it on a steel grip frame I bought "in-the-white" that I fitted it to an Old Model Ruger Blackhawk. I didn't get the results I was looking for, so I ended up taking it back down to bare metal and using Brownell's Oypho-Blue cold Bluing.

I applied it using a similar technique to rusting bluing, using hot water. I heated up the bare grip frame by putting it in boiling water for a few minutes, and then applied the Oxpho-Blue. Carded it, back into the boiling water and repeated the application until I got what I was looking for, a deep dark finish.

It's been around 5 years since I did that and it's been durable and still going strong.
 

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There are commercial rust bluing chemical solutions available. Most are acidic to rust the metal. At one time I remember seeing something about using open containers of hydrochloric and nitric acid inside a sealed Tupperware-type plastic container to cause rusting fairly rapidly from the acid fumes, but never tried it. The purpose of boiling rusted parts in water is to chemically convert the Fe2O3 (red/brown) rust on steel to Fe3O4 (black, or Magnetite) rust. At one time many many major gunmakers used rust bluing as a standard finish. They just stored parts to be blued in a humid environment to make them rust. Very time consuming and expensive, rust bluing pretty well died around the WWII period, replaced by the caustic hot bluing solutions most every manufacturer uses today. It also results in a magnetite blued finish on steel. The Brownell Oxypho blue solution works and wears fairly well, but it does not produce a magnetite oxide finish. But I would rather use it than go through the pain of rust bluing.
 
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I did an old BHP a couple years ago, didn't turn out so bad I guess.

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Started with a spray epoxy spray on coating.

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I had to have it media blasted off.

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I used Brownells Oxpho Blue solution warmed on the gas grill in a stainless cook pot to about 110 degrees. Dipped 6 times and rubbed between with steel wool.
 
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I seem to recall seeing it done using a rust bluing solution from Brownells and converting a clothes/wardrobe cardboard box from U-Haul as the humidity chamber with an inexpensive clothes steamer or maybe it was a humidifier at the bottom to provide the humidity needed. The parts once polished to the level desired were degreased, boiled in water, quickly removed and had the solution swabbed on (being careful not to touch the parts) and then hung on a wire from the support bar in the wardrobe box. Once rusted, the parts were carded and the procedure was repeated several times. The first few applications just looked gray, but after 3 or 4 cycles the blue color started to appear and it turned out pretty well.
 
I rust blued a vintage 22 rifle using a ferric chloride home brew solution. I used a section of gutter to boil the barrel over my fire pit. It took 4 cycles and the rifle turned out almost black with a very shiny finish. Being in Missouri in June with the humidity running 70% it did not take long for the rusting to occur. I was able to do the entire process in a couple of hours.

Mals
 
I got a S&W revolver which had seen very hard service in China. It was an ideal candidate for a re-blue job. I used the Brownell's hot bluing kit and I was surprised how well it turned out. Sorry no pictures as we are in the process of moving and everything is all packed.
 
Rust bluing is a LOT of work....A LOT...but a good rust blue is beautiful. A good one will entail at least 10 passes with the solution. But done right will look great. I've done rust blues and also the baked blue using charcoaled leather and whale oil. Whale oil is nigh on to impossible to get these days. All I have left is less than a pint of sperm oil Great for lubing those old doubles and old Winchesters. That oxpho blue does work pretty well applied while heated. Well....off to the gun/antique auction
 
What does "carded" mean ?

Carding refers to the use of a mild abrasive to remove the surface oxidation, leaving the underlying metal with the desired finish. For the hobbyist the best alternative for carding is fine steel wool. As others have pointed out, the rust bluing process will require multiple applications and carding before the finish work reaches the desired result. It is a tedious process, especially when doing one firearm at a time (manufacturers ran production lines, and rust bluing was just one part of the process during which entire production runs of identical firearms were done in batches by specialized employees).
 
Rust bluing is the best home bluing process.

Rust bluing tips:
1. Practice on a few small scraps of steel first.
2. Use only distilled water for boiling rusted parts.
3. Plan the start of the slow rust bluing process at a time that you know it can be completed without interruption. If the process is interrupted more than one day the parts may be pitted with rust. I like to start on Friday and plan on finishing on Sunday evening.
 
I’ve used oxpho blue in the manner described above, where parts are boiled and then the bluing is applied to the hot surface. Worked pretty good.

Looks like I need time and a plan, but the rust bluing doesn’t sound too hard. I’m gonna do it.
 
The original polish is the key to a really good finish. Polish by hand and keep it clean..no oil from fingers hands. When you card the rust make sure you get it all. I used a very soft wire wheel and found it just needed a light brushing. The thing I used a lot in the crevices etc was a couple of tooth brushes. one a little stiff the other pretty soft. Handguns have more crevices etc than shotguns or rifles. No guns bought at the auction today....but I did get 20 pounds of 700X powder for 35 bucks. an 8 lb and a metal 12 lb...Also an Ohaus 10-10 scale for 15 bucks. In the box
 
2 basic types of rust bluing
--Quick Rust Blue, also called 'Express Rust Blue',, 'Hot Rust Blue'
--Slow Rust Blue, also called 'Cold Rust Blue'

Probably other names for them, but those are the common ones.
'Fume Bluing' was a kind of popular in the 1970's when a guy named Phil Pilkington, a custom gunmaker and engraver, came up with the method and published some articles about it. One was in a GunDigest.
The basic method is to place the clean polished parts in a sealed cabinet with very small amts of both Nitric and Hydrochloric acid (a few drops of each kept in separate containers,,plastic bottle caps worked well).
The idea was that the combined fumes of the 2 acids built a fine, even rust on the parts all by itself. The parts were then boiled and carded as usual for a rust blue. Then set back in the cabinet and 'fumed' again for another rusting.
I tried it several times back when and got mixed results.
Some areas rusted nicely, some not. If the acid(s) were too intense, the metal would sweat and spoil the finish. Not enough (dealing with a few drops of each), then you didn't get hardly any rusting or just some near the caps.
It did produce a very nice deep blue color when it worked.
But not a very tough finish as the other rust blue procedures do.
That along with the mixed results have kind of made the process fade from favor. Though I'm sure there is someone having found the right technique and is still using it.

Back to the traditional rust blues.
Each uses their own rusting soln's.
What works for an Express Blue, does not work for a Slow Rust Blue.

Express Blue is a start to finish project, though it may take you a couple hours to finish.
Cold Rust/Slow Rust can take several days or longer. This because you let the parts rust naturally in the air and humidity with the soln applied.
Express rust bluing the parts rust immedietly when the soln is applied to the warm parts. Then the parts are immedietely put back in the boiling water to turn the brown rust to blue/black.

Slow Rust is easier to control. It is more forgiving in that you can work over a small area that has a streak on it of blemish in the color and then go on and blend it in with the next coating.
When you are carding the parts you are do so with them at room temp because you can allow them to cool off. No need to hurry. They have to be cool anyway before you can put the next coating of rusting soln on them. Easy to handle them,,but don't touch them with bare hands!

Express Bluing,,speed is everything. The hot parts are taken from the tank and the excess water shaken off. Then immedietly they are carded while still hot.
Any water drops hiding on them and carded over will likely spoil the finish. They have to be dry.
Then you have to recoat them with the bluing soln while still hot in order for the soln to evaporate and leave a rust coating.
If the parts have cooled too much while carding and handling,,you have to reheat them before reapplication of the soln.
Oldway was to place them back in the boiling water. I generaly just heat them back up w/a propane torch.
Don't get them too hot (they only need to be 212F). Too hot and the bluing soln will sizzle and etch the surface.

Doing a set of SxS bbls , usually 2 sets, (sometimes 3 at a time) is about all you can handle and not be waiting around during an Express Blue.
If you are doing a set of bbls and an action and all the small parts, screws pins, trigger guard, plates, sights, ect, ect. Then you really have some work on your hands and it seems like forever to get back to the bbls for the next coating.

I still do Express Blue on a few projects. It just fits in better.
But I prefer Slow Rust Blue and use it much of the time.

You don't really need a special 'damp' cabinet to boost the rusting time. MOst of the soln's will rust the parts at less than 85F and 85% humidity like most advise.
Sometimes I let the parts hang for 24hrs and more to get a fine coating of rust. You don't need a coating of rust that looks like a piece of old farm equipment that's been in a field for 20yrs to get bluing.
Barely a reddish ting color will give you a coating of blue,,and very little if any matting/etching to the steel.
If you want more matting, just let it stand longer and it'll do just that.

If you want to accelerate the rusting to an hour or 2 and done,,just steam up the bathroom by running the shower Hot (plug the drain and let the water collect too.).
Then turn the water off, hang the parts on the shower rod and close the door. With the familys permission and keeping the door closed the parts will be set to go to the boiling water tank by the time the game is done.

Boil for at least 10min. before carding.

If you have a streak or bad spot in the blue finish don't be shy about taking that spot back down below the blemish even to the bare steel again. Then go right on with the process and recoat the entire part with soln. That scrubbed down area will catch right back up in color in 1 or 2 cycles.
Scotchbrite works wonders for polishing those blemishes out of the bluing during the process. Don't reuse the piece, throw it away as it may contain any contaminate that caused the problem.

I use 'Laurel Mountain Browning Soln' for Slow Rust Blue and have for the last 35+ yrs.
For Express Blue I use 'Mark Lee Express Blue Soln'.
Probably used that for the same amt of time.

Stay away from the older stuff w/Mercury compounds in it or you'll shake like me.

I just finished a Krag sporter up and slow rust blued that one.
I'll see if I can get a couple pics of it.

Haven't hot salt blued in many years. Too much stuff to deal with now with all the chemicals and EPA stuff. If you need something hot salt blued, better to take pre-polished parts to someone with the set-up and pay them to 'dunk' them these days.

Hope this helps.
 
2 basic types of rust bluing
--Quick Rust Blue, also called 'Express Rust Blue',, 'Hot Rust Blue'
--Slow Rust Blue, also called 'Cold Rust Blue'

Probably other names for them, but those are the common ones.
'Fume Bluing' was a kind of popular in the 1970's when a guy named Phil Pilkington, a custom gunmaker and engraver, came up with the method and published some articles about it. One was in a GunDigest.
The basic method is to place the clean polished parts in a sealed cabinet with very small amts of both Nitric and Hydrochloric acid (a few drops of each kept in separate containers,,plastic bottle caps worked well).
The idea was that the combined fumes of the 2 acids built a fine, even rust on the parts all by itself. The parts were then boiled and carded as usual for a rust blue. Then set back in the cabinet and 'fumed' again for another rusting.
I tried it several times back when and got mixed results.
Some areas rusted nicely, some not. If the acid(s) were too intense, the metal would sweat and spoil the finish. Not enough (dealing with a few drops of each), then you didn't get hardly any rusting or just some near the caps.
It did produce a very nice deep blue color when it worked.
But not a very tough finish as the other rust blue procedures do.
That along with the mixed results have kind of made the process fade from favor. Though I'm sure there is someone having found the right technique and is still using it.

Back to the traditional rust blues.
Each uses their own rusting soln's.
What works for an Express Blue, does not work for a Slow Rust Blue.

Express Blue is a start to finish project, though it may take you a couple hours to finish.
Cold Rust/Slow Rust can take several days or longer. This because you let the parts rust naturally in the air and humidity with the soln applied.
Express rust bluing the parts rust immedietly when the soln is applied to the warm parts. Then the parts are immedietely put back in the boiling water to turn the brown rust to blue/black.

Slow Rust is easier to control. It is more forgiving in that you can work over a small area that has a streak on it of blemish in the color and then go on and blend it in with the next coating.
When you are carding the parts you are do so with them at room temp because you can allow them to cool off. No need to hurry. They have to be cool anyway before you can put the next coating of rusting soln on them. Easy to handle them,,but don't touch them with bare hands!

Express Bluing,,speed is everything. The hot parts are taken from the tank and the excess water shaken off. Then immedietly they are carded while still hot.
Any water drops hiding on them and carded over will likely spoil the finish. They have to be dry.
Then you have to recoat them with the bluing soln while still hot in order for the soln to evaporate and leave a rust coating.
If the parts have cooled too much while carding and handling,,you have to reheat them before reapplication of the soln.
Oldway was to place them back in the boiling water. I generaly just heat them back up w/a propane torch.
Don't get them too hot (they only need to be 212F). Too hot and the bluing soln will sizzle and etch the surface.

Doing a set of SxS bbls , usually 2 sets, (sometimes 3 at a time) is about all you can handle and not be waiting around during an Express Blue.
If you are doing a set of bbls and an action and all the small parts, screws pins, trigger guard, plates, sights, ect, ect. Then you really have some work on your hands and it seems like forever to get back to the bbls for the next coating.

I still do Express Blue on a few projects. It just fits in better.
But I prefer Slow Rust Blue and use it much of the time.

You don't really need a special 'damp' cabinet to boost the rusting time. MOst of the soln's will rust the parts at less than 85F and 85% humidity like most advise.
Sometimes I let the parts hang for 24hrs and more to get a fine coating of rust. You don't need a coating of rust that looks like a piece of old farm equipment that's been in a field for 20yrs to get bluing.
Barely a reddish ting color will give you a coating of blue,,and very little if any matting/etching to the steel.
If you want more matting, just let it stand longer and it'll do just that.

If you want to accelerate the rusting to an hour or 2 and done,,just steam up the bathroom by running the shower Hot (plug the drain and let the water collect too.).
Then turn the water off, hang the parts on the shower rod and close the door. With the familys permission and keeping the door closed the parts will be set to go to the boiling water tank by the time the game is done.

Boil for at least 10min. before carding.

If you have a streak or bad spot in the blue finish don't be shy about taking that spot back down below the blemish even to the bare steel again. Then go right on with the process and recoat the entire part with soln. That scrubbed down area will catch right back up in color in 1 or 2 cycles.
Scotchbrite works wonders for polishing those blemishes out of the bluing during the process. Don't reuse the piece, throw it away as it may contain any contaminate that caused the problem.

I use 'Laurel Mountain Browning Soln' for Slow Rust Blue and have for the last 35+ yrs.
For Express Blue I use 'Mark Lee Express Blue Soln'.
Probably used that for the same amt of time.

Stay away from the older stuff w/Mercury compounds in it or you'll shake like me.

I just finished a Krag sporter up and slow rust blued that one.
I'll see if I can get a couple pics of it.

Haven't hot salt blued in many years. Too much stuff to deal with now with all the chemicals and EPA stuff. If you need something hot salt blued, better to take pre-polished parts to someone with the set-up and pay them to 'dunk' them these days.

Hope this helps.

Excellent!

And now I believe I know why I didn't get very good results when I tried rust bluing my Ruger grip frame.

I was doing it all wrong... I had no idea that there were two types of rust bluing and I very likely mixed one kind of solution with the application method of the other.

Now I want to give it a try again, this time on a set of a vintage Stevens SxS shotgun barrels.
 
After polishing any oil , from fingers or the steel wool ( soak it in acetone and be amazed at the crud that comes off) will keep the solution from "biting" into the steel. Most people only polish to 320 grit. Whatever container you use to boil keep it clean and oil free. Use distilled or rain water to boil. Some tap water can work , but it is easier to use distilled. It isn't fast, but very low expense in extra equipment, and produces a very tough, durable finish. ymmv
 
Indeed, Acetone (or MEK) is a most excellent material for de-greasing polished metal prior to any type of bluing. When I was at the USAF Gunsmith Shop (making up M9 General Officer's pistols) we completely eliminated boiling parts in silicated cleaning solutions by wiping every component down with MEK just prior to their going into the bluing tank. Hot bluing defects dropped to near zero. We did the MEK wipedown outside. It is flammable, no smoking or open flames, and have plenty of ventilation.
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