S&W 5906 major problem

[Vom Brunhaus K9]

Thanks Yorkie right now theres at least a 3 month waiting time due to summer vacations @ Smith and Wesson. I have spoken to them.

 

[fshfindr]

I still say to sell it, cumba

 

[Disabled1]

I still say to sell it, cumba

+1. I too would send it to S&W.

 

[rwsmith]

I agree..

An everyday gunsmith, as competent as they may be, may not be qualified for 3rd gen work. I know you said that couldn't use S&W right now, but that's the only sure thing unless you can find somebody good with 3rd gens, then you've spent about as much money as you would have sending it to S&W.

 

[5906fan]

if you know another 06 owner that would be willing to swap slides for a test run this can narrow down the reason for the problem.
my guess is bad extractor/spring. likely spring and a simple test is chamber a dummy round then hold pressure on the extractor hook and pull back the slide. if the case retracts then - but doesn't w/out the pressure then the spring is surely shot.

 

[Vom Brunhaus K9]

GunSmith has fitted the new barrell and am picking it up for a range test today, Hes stated hes replaced the spring over and over. So we will see, if no success will likely trade it in on a Sig Sauer. Thank you for your help 5906fan. Like the gun and hate to part with it but enuff is enuff

 

[85V65Sabre]

GunSmith has fitted the new barrell and am picking it up for a range test today, Hes stated hes replaced the spring over and over. So we will see, if no success will likely trade it in on a Sig Sauer. Thank you for your help 5906fan. Like the gun and hate to part with it but enuff is enuff

Let us know if you put it up for sale.

 

[Vom Brunhaus K9]

I received gun back from Gunsmith Aug. 4th saying hes fitted the new barellel into the gun. Took to the range with 2 boxes of assorted Ammo, and variety of Magazines also. Set up written Ledger / count sheet. Result is I shot 70 rounds of ammo with only one FTE which was half out of the chamber. I guess thats as good as it gets. Took home cleaned & oiled well. Will retry again in couole of weeks. Once again thank All of you for your Help on this Forum Mike Vom Brunhaus K9 GSD

 

[kbm6893]

How much money have you put into this? A trip to either the factory or to frank, who is authorized by the factory to do the work, would have cost you nothing.

 

[Big Shrek]

I received gun back from Gunsmith Aug. 4th saying hes fitted the new barellel into the gun. Took to the range with 2 boxes of assorted Ammo, and variety of Magazines also. Set up written Ledger / count sheet. Result is I shot 70 rounds of ammo with only one FTE which was half out of the chamber. I guess thats as good as it gets. Took home cleaned & oiled well. Will retry again in couple of weeks. Once again thank All of you for your Help on this Forum Mike Vom Brunhaus K9 GSD

1 or two FTE's during barrel break-in would be normal

Hopefully he got it, but if you have any more problems,
Send it to Frank.

 

[Vom Brunhaus K9]

second range visit 100 plus rounds fired "No FTE at all" total success and issue has dis-appeared. Thanking you Forum friends for all your help.
VB K9

 

[85V65Sabre]

I'm happy to hear your pistol is working like it should now.
I love my 5906.[emoji4]

 

[adams484]

Just a thought... How is the ammo chambering. Without going all scientific and buying 10 grand or better worth of production QC tooling. You need to determine what is happening. I mean come on... The slide pulls forward the extractor hooks the rim, then it fires, the brass cartridge expands to meat the chamber then retracts a smidgen after the gasses are released from the barrel, then the recoil throws the slide back, and the ejector bar hits the other side of the rim throwing the spent cartridge out of the ejection port as the slide reaches the far end of its cycle.

One of these steps is not happening consistently. Look for clues as to which of these is not happening correctly. Things like when firing from a bench rest does the spent cartridges fall in a small pattern on the ground or are they all over the place? Look at the markings on the spent cartridges. Are they gouged up deeply where the extractor is sliding over the rim? Use a magnifying glass to inspect them. Compare the failed to extract cartridges to the successfully extracted cartridges and look for clues. You need to be a detective. Use good quality ammo with consistent velocities for these tests. Does the slide go into battery all the time correctly? Does the barrel fit the slide correctly? Does the ammo chamber and head space correctly?

Know ALL these things without any doubt before blaming anything and blindly replacing parts! It is a concert of activities that all need to happen in a timing sequence that needs to be consistent to a certain degree.

If you have done all this and it is still not apparent what the problem is you are looking at one of these and thinking it is correct when it is not. Stop!!! Reevaluate and check again eventually it will become apparent what it is that looks correct or you thought was correct and is not correct.

It could be as simple as taking a file to the hook on the extractor or as expensive as a new slide and barrel if it is worn beyond refitting. But know what it is before removing any material from a part you are not willing to replace.

I am willing to bet your answers are in the spent ejected / failed to eject cartridges if you look for clues there. I reload and I see ejector marks that I can almost tell which of my guns fired them. Go CSI (Crime Scene Investigation) on this or find someone who can.

But asking here is not a bad idea as all the ideas that others have put forth may spur that epiphany you are seeking.

 

[85V65Sabre]

Just a thought... How is the ammo chambering. Without going all scientific and buying 10 grand or better worth of production QC tooling. You need to determine what is happening. I mean come on... The slide pulls forward the extractor hooks the rim, then it fires, the brass cartridge expands to meat the chamber then retracts a smidgen after the gasses are released from the barrel, then the recoil throws the slide back, and the ejector bar hits the other side of the rim throwing the spent cartridge out of the ejection port as the slide reaches the far end of its cycle.

One of these steps is not happening consistently. Look for clues as to which of these is not happening correctly. Things like when firing from a bench rest does the spent cartridges fall in a small pattern on the ground or are they all over the place? Look at the markings on the spent cartridges. Are they gouged up deeply where the extractor is sliding over the rim? Use a magnifying glass to inspect them. Compare the failed to extract cartridges to the successfully extracted cartridges and look for clues. You need to be a detective. Use good quality ammo with consistent velocities for these tests. Does the slide go into battery all the time correctly? Does the barrel fit the slide correctly? Does the ammo chamber and head space correctly?

Know ALL these things without any doubt before blaming anything and blindly replacing parts! It is a concert of activities that all need to happen in a timing sequence that needs to be consistent to a certain degree.

If you have done all this and it is still not apparent what the problem is you are looking at one of these and thinking it is correct when it is not. Stop!!! Reevaluate and check again eventually it will become apparent what it is that looks correct or you thought was correct and is not correct.

It could be as simple as taking a file to the hook on the extractor or as expensive as a new slide and barrel if it is worn beyond refitting. But know what it is before removing any material from a part you are not willing to replace.

I am willing to bet your answers are in the spent ejected / failed to eject cartridges if you look for clues there. I reload and I see ejector marks that I can almost tell which of my guns fired them. Go CSI (Crime Scene Investigation) on this or find someone who can.

But asking here is not a bad idea as all the ideas that others have put forth may spur that epiphany you are seeking.

Did you notice that he got the issue sorted out?
I guess not.

second range visit 100 plus rounds fired "No FTE at all" total success and issue has dis-appeared. Thanking you Forum friends for all your help.
VB K9

 

[adams484]

Did you notice that he got the issue sorted out?
I guess not.

Sorry I did not see that post. A breach of etiquette I suppose. Not to worry I will just go back to lurking and let people figure it out themselves.