And the grumpy old farts of the future will be complaining about how the plastic in that day just doesn't have the quality of the plastic they used in the old days!
S&W Cheapskates
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And the grumpy old farts of the future will be complaining about how the plastic in that day just doesn't have the quality of the plastic they used in the old days!
Don’t forget the collectable lock!
Both of my Shield manuals or whatever are still in the boxes. Never looked at "em".
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I e-mailed S&W again, and they are sending me a paper owners manual. I guess I should have requested paper to begin with. My bad. Thanks for all of the negative feed back. It made me feel so much better. I pity your children if they come to you with a problem! I guess all of us can't be perfect, good thing some of you are! What would this world do without you?
I e-mailed S&W again, and they are sending me a paper owners manual. I guess I should have requested paper to begin with. My bad. Thanks for all of the negative feed back. It made me feel so much better. I pity your children if they come to you with a problem! I guess all of us can't be perfect, good thing some of you are! What would this world do without you?
rsrocket1
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You're welcome kid. If I were your parent, I'd say put on your big boy pants or go to your room and sulk it out until you grow up.
With an attitude like that and not even saying "mia culpa, S&W are not really cheapskates" you deserve the darts.
Have a nice day
Hope you feel better.
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I pity you if you think missing a manual from a gun is a problem. If you just look around you in this world, there are people who are hungry, sick, homeless, and who couldn't begin to afford to buy a gun, much less have the means (internet connection, phone or laptop, etc) to complain about not getting a manual to go with it. These people have real problems.
I also pity you if you think the comments here were negative...if you want to see what negative truly is, just read or watch the news. The things that people say to one another, or about one another, is just mind-boggling. I've been on forums where there were no rules, or very few, and discussions there quickly went into the gutter, with challenges to meet to fight, and all sorts of filth. This forum is like Sunday School compared to some out there. Just because some here disagreed with you doesn't make the opinions negative.
Lee in Quartzsite
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Kind of expected more from a U.S. Marine. Thought they took pride in being problem solvers. Just say'n.....
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The first person you should have asked for a missing manual is the dealer that sold you the gun in the first place. It is incumbent on him to make sure that all items are included in a new gun sale. It is the dealers responsibility to contact S&W if any items are missing from the packaging! S&W did not sell you the gun, your dealer did and made a profit doing it.
S&W extended you a "courtesy only" by sending you an e mail copy! Why are you kicking a gift horse in the mouth?
S&W extended you a "courtesy only" by sending you an e mail copy! Why are you kicking a gift horse in the mouth?
lhump1961
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If you read your original post it specifically asks "what are your thoughts on this?" You asked for and received opinions...some sympathetic and some not. What are you complaining about?
As for children...parents are not friends, they are teachers. You seem to have missed the lesson on "humility". (def.- freedom from pride or arrogance.) This, of course, is JMHO and you are free to ignore it but thankfully my children did not.
I was a corpsman, and spent two years with a Marine unit...plus my wife has three brothers who were Marines. In my experience, Marines are problem CAUSERS rather than solvers!
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sigp220.45
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Wow. What a way to treat a new guy.
noro
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Hi All,
JMHO, seems like a big misunderstanding that has snowballed.
The OP asked for a manual so S&W forwarded him a link. However he wanted a paper manual but didn't make it clear to S&W. He called them back, explained what he wanted, and they agreed to forward it to him. Case closed.
Not cool to go on about his character and old vs new technology.
It is what it is. In my experience, if you're patient and explain the problem to S&W, they will bend over backwards to accommodate you if they can.
My MP15 needs work and took 4 calls to get a label. Not that they disputed the problem, the reps were rushed and kept getting my email wrong. I was patient and they took care of the problem.
JMHO, seems like a big misunderstanding that has snowballed.
The OP asked for a manual so S&W forwarded him a link. However he wanted a paper manual but didn't make it clear to S&W. He called them back, explained what he wanted, and they agreed to forward it to him. Case closed.
Not cool to go on about his character and old vs new technology.
It is what it is. In my experience, if you're patient and explain the problem to S&W, they will bend over backwards to accommodate you if they can.
My MP15 needs work and took 4 calls to get a label. Not that they disputed the problem, the reps were rushed and kept getting my email wrong. I was patient and they took care of the problem.
Well, he did ask for it, "What's everyone's thoughts on this?"
Calling S&W "cheapskates" was pretty lame (IMO) to start with. However, we should cut the new guy some slack.
In the end, his issue was resolved, in part, due to the "encouragement" of the forum.
Calling S&W "cheapskates" was pretty lame (IMO) to start with. However, we should cut the new guy some slack.
In the end, his issue was resolved, in part, due to the "encouragement" of the forum.
Wee Hooker
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...and at the rate S&W shields were sold, I doubt these cheap and common plastic guns ever have a collectors value.
That said, not everyone is computer savvy. My guess is if the OP calls and specifically asks for a paper copy, the lawyers at S&W would get one right out in the mail. They did for me 1/2 dozen years ago for a S&W 1911 I had anyway.
Deadeye Dick
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I can top that. I still have the limited edition fired casing that came with my M&P.40.
*Beginning in the late 2010"s manuals were not routinely sent with new guns, but were rather made available on line . . .
pittpa
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Can't believe you were too cheap to send them a letter.
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Rastoff
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Hmmm, what should have been said?
Are you telling me that you don't see the irony of sending an email for a manual, receiving a link to that manual and then complaining to random strangers on an electronic forum? Come on, tell me you see it?
In all honesty, if it had been me, rather than start off by insulting the company, I would have asked, "How can I get my hands on a paper manual? Does it even exist?" But, hey, that's just me. I was brought up that to earn respect you must be respectful. Starting with an insult is not respectful.
bjfichter,
I'm sorry I found humor in your original post. I'm still curious to hear if the link was to the wrong manual?
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