S&W M&P 10mm

[Racer X]

I noticed the thread was gone. Did S&W corporate file a cease and desist letter on this site's owners on the grounds of sheer embarrassment?

 

[ukcats]

Lol, no. The original thread is still here. You just have to scroll down and change your settings. That thread hadn’t been active so, it dropped of the displayed threads.

 

[ukcats]

Lol, no. The original thread is still here. You just have to scroll down and change your settings. That thread hadn’t been active so, it dropped of the displayed threads.

 

[Racer X]

darn. I was sure it was S&W having a temper tantrum.

 

[ukcats]

darn. I was sure it was S&W having a temper tantrum.

I wished they where listening......on a bright note, Underwood Ammo’s .45acp 255 grain +p hard cast works flawlessly in my 2.0 .45

 

[Neal]

YES! M&P 2.0 10mm, 5" barrel, 15 round mag- that would be the nuts! A big improvement over the Glock 20.

 

[Echo40]

I wished they where listening...

To be fair, Smith & Wesson doesn't actually run this forum, nor is it the only forum devoted to the brand, and lastly, as many folks as there are here asking for it, there aren't nearly enough to justify the necessary costs of R&D or production.

Besides, as previously stated in other threads on the subject, it really seems like the 10mm hype train was being conducted by existing fans of the cartridge, hoping to capitalize on the FBI dropping .40 S&W by using it as a means to push its big brother. Basically, they wanted to get more folks talking about 10mm in hopes that it would create a greater demand and thus give the cartridge a second chance at mainstream popularity.

Unfortunately, the FBI seems to have already successfully convinced the majority of shooters that there's no practical advantage to cartridges more powerful than 9mm Luger, and apparently .40 S&W is "too snappy" for most shooters these days anyway, so obviously a harsher recoiling .40 was a tough sell to begin with.

 

[Sevens]

Besides, as previously stated in other threads on the subject, it really seems like the 10mm hype train was being conducted by existing fans of the cartridge, hoping to capitalize on the FBI dropping .40 S&W by using it as a means to push its big brother. Basically, they wanted to get more folks talking about 10mm in hopes that it would create a greater demand and thus give the cartridge a second chance at mainstream popularity.

Unfortunately, the FBI seems to have already successfully convinced the majority of shooters that there's no practical advantage to cartridges more powerful than 9mm Luger, and apparently .40 S&W is "too snappy" for most shooters these days anyway, so obviously a harsher recoiling .40 was a tough sell to begin with.

Fake news.

Smith & Wesson only has one goal and it hasn't changed in 100+ years. That goal is to sell products.

One need only look at the sales of the Glock 20, 29 and whatever number the newest 10mm Glock is (40? I don't recall) to see that regardless of opinion-loaded fake news, Smith & Wesson should have made and sold 10mm M&P pistols.

 

[Echo40]

Smith & Wesson only has one goal and it hasn't changed in 100+ years. That goal is to sell products.

Which is precisely why they aren't making an M&P10mm.

If there were a significant demand, then S&W would have tapped it by now.

The 10mm Auto is a good round, but it has niche market appeal with only a cult following, most of which is already satisfied or has otherwise long since contented themselves with one or more of the available 10mm pistols on the market.
Demand for an M&P10mm is insignificant, hence why S&W hasn't and most likely won't ever come out with one.

 

[Racer X]

I can assure you that angry bears and Roosevelt elk haven't been reading any FBI shooting accounts or forensic reports. You shoot one with any 9mm round, and unless your shot is a fluke, you are just going to make it mad.

 

[Echo40]

I can assure you that angry bears and Roosevelt elk haven't been reading any FBI shooting accounts or forensic reports. You shoot one with any 9mm round, and unless your shot is a fluke, you are just going to make it mad.

No argument there, but most folks still choose magnum revolvers or shotguns for defense against bears, and unfortunately not that many folks go hiking in the wilderness these days to begin with, so once again, the 10mm Auto finds itself in a niche too small for S&W to consider worthwhile.

Believe me, I'd like nothing more than for a Smith & Wesson representative to appear in this very thread to inform me that I am wrong and that they're already working on an M&P10mm, but that isn't going to happen.

The facts are that Smith & Wesson hasn't made a 10mm Auto pistol in decades and despite the power, versatility, and obvious cool factor, it just doesn't have mass market appeal, and S&W doesn't seem interested in niche catering to niche markets. The closest thing they've ever released to a firearm targeting a niche market is the Governor, but that's a niche that has mass market appeal.

If anyone might be coming out with a new 10mm Semiautomatic with similar features to the M&P, then I'd bet on Ruger. They just released a 5.7x28 pistol and they've already made a 10mm 1911, so it wouldn't surprise me if they eventually came out with something like an SR10 or Security-10.

 

[Sevens]

All of that and yet S&W just recently re-released a 10mm chambered N-frame revolver?

Now which is more of a niche market, the 10mm semiauto or a 10mm moon-clipped revolver?

 

[Dave Lively]

Now which is more of a niche market, the 10mm semiauto or a 10mm moon-clipped revolver?

Making a 10mm M&P could be a much bigger task than a 10mm N-frame revolver. The N-frame is obviously strong enough to handle the 10mm. The M&P frame might not be.

I bought a 10mm 1911 style gun right after the caliber came out. It was not up to the stress and broke as did many "Let's just slap a 10mm barrel in our 45" guns. The Glock 20 was designed as a 10mm with the 45 ACP coming later.