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S&W model 10-5 4" v. Taurus Model 82s 4" ?
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DR505
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I've yet to pick up a Taurus that feels as good as a S&W. What do the specs at each manufacturer say?
...................S&W ..........................Taurus
length...........8.875".........................9.25"
weight............36 oz .......................36.5 oz
Height.............................................5.48"
width...............................................1.94"
This is what I found. But do they "feel" same ? same holster?
length...........8.875".........................9.25"
weight............36 oz .......................36.5 oz
Height.............................................5.48"
width...............................................1.94"
This is what I found. But do they "feel" same ? same holster?
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Back in 1989, one of the gun mags tested this Taurus model. 500 rounds of standard velocity, service-type ammunition were fired in the gun. The barrel/cylinder gap measured at .006" before firing. After the 500 rounds, which a Model 10 Smith will swallow easily, the b/c gap on the Taurus had increased substantially, can't recall the amount.
You don't want a Taurus, unless you already have one.
You don't want a Taurus, unless you already have one.
Dave T
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No they won't feel the same. One will feel like a quality revolver and the other will feel like a cheep imitation of the first one. You get to figure out which is which. (smile)
Dave
Dave
sac-gunslinger
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I remember the first Taurus revolvers imported in the 70's. Rough machining, poor bluing, stocks that looked as though they came from lettuce crates. One model, M10 lookalikes, sort of. But the price point was stunning, about $75. Quality is much better today.
I have owned a couple M82s. The "feel" is different. They are perciptibly heavier. They shoot OK. But the price is where a used S&W would be, no advantage in money any more.
The problem with "feel" is that it is influenced by expectations. If we know we are looking at an "inferior" gun we will feel an inferior gun. Would be interesting to conduct feel test with blindfolded panel members.
I have owned a couple M82s. The "feel" is different. They are perciptibly heavier. They shoot OK. But the price is where a used S&W would be, no advantage in money any more.
The problem with "feel" is that it is influenced by expectations. If we know we are looking at an "inferior" gun we will feel an inferior gun. Would be interesting to conduct feel test with blindfolded panel members.
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If the specs you quoted are correct, the Taurus is 3/8" longer than a model 10, which may be a problem for a holster that fits the shorter gun.
I have not handled a Taurus revolver, but by owner reports their quality control and warranty service have left much to be desired.
I have not handled a Taurus revolver, but by owner reports their quality control and warranty service have left much to be desired.
I remember when the Taurus guns first arrived and how they were looked down upon. Time went by and people like gunwriter Ross Siegfried, IIRC, among others, began to sing their praises. Today, I'd be surprised if a current manufacture Taurus was just trash. OTOH, I'm not switching from S&W to Taurus any time soon!
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Bubbageorge
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I have one tauris revolver a 921 22 wmr eight shot. It is a true
*** My wife cannot pull the trigger without a huge strain, I changed the spring to a lighter weight and the gun will not fire most 22 wmr it misfires a lot and the casings stick in the gun and you must pound on the ejector to get them out. Never another one for me. I changed the spring back to the factory spring and it still is like it was before, many misfires. OK no more rant but I hope you get my point.
*** My wife cannot pull the trigger without a huge strain, I changed the spring to a lighter weight and the gun will not fire most 22 wmr it misfires a lot and the casings stick in the gun and you must pound on the ejector to get them out. Never another one for me. I changed the spring back to the factory spring and it still is like it was before, many misfires. OK no more rant but I hope you get my point.
bmcgilvray
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I'm willing to own the Model 10-5 and unwilling to own any Taurus product under any circumstances.
Have observed several shooting acquaintances go down the Taurus road. Varying degrees of "yuck" is how the revolvers felt and weird metallurgical gremlins seemed to rear their heads. Things like the single-action sear breaking off of the hammer on a double-action .357 Magnum Taurus (in a big chunk) and a hand that was too soft and would bend within a couple of complete cycles of the cylinder of that .44 Special Taurus snub. Things like that. These weren't the older Taurus products either.
It is guaranteed that a discerning person can feel the inferiority, blindfolded and sitting on a panel or not.
Have observed several shooting acquaintances go down the Taurus road. Varying degrees of "yuck" is how the revolvers felt and weird metallurgical gremlins seemed to rear their heads. Things like the single-action sear breaking off of the hammer on a double-action .357 Magnum Taurus (in a big chunk) and a hand that was too soft and would bend within a couple of complete cycles of the cylinder of that .44 Special Taurus snub. Things like that. These weren't the older Taurus products either.
It is guaranteed that a discerning person can feel the inferiority, blindfolded and sitting on a panel or not.
Dot_mdb
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The 10-5 does not weigh 36 oz. It is more like 31 oz. The 10-5 has the "standard" tapered barrel and the Taurus has a heavy barrel like a 10-6. The balance and the feel is going to be completely different. I am not going to knock the Taurus because I have never shot one but the 10-5 is a jewel and they are not all that expensive on the used market for one in good shape.
Bill
Bill
My wife's dad had an older foreign police issue Taurus 82 he picked up somewhere on the cheap and it looked very similar to a Model 10 heavy barrel. For what it was, it felt durable but but of course the fit and finish didn't compare to that of a Smith. Probably wouldn't be a bad truck gun or something extra to toss in a drawer.
Dot_mdb
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You originally referred to a 10-5 which has the tapered barrel. Your link to the S&W site is for the current model which has the heavy barrel. The Standard Catalog shows the weight of heavy barrel Model 10s and 65s at around 34 ounces. The weight of the 10-5 which only was offered with the tapered barrel is listed at 30.5 ounces. I don't have a scale to measure my 10-5 but I am certain the gun is no where near 36 ounces. It is in fact a surprisingly light gun for a 4" all steel revolver.
Does anybody out there have a 4" Model 10-5 that they could weigh on a digital scale?
Also, you have listed the width of the Taurus as 1.94". The widest part of the gun is the cylinder and if I remember correctly K frame cylinders have a diameter of 1.45" and the Taurus is likely to be similar.
Quality issues aside, a tapered barrel revolver is going to have a completely different balance than a heavy barrel revolver. I don't think Taurus made a tapered barrel but I am not sure.
Bill
Does anybody out there have a 4" Model 10-5 that they could weigh on a digital scale?
Also, you have listed the width of the Taurus as 1.94". The widest part of the gun is the cylinder and if I remember correctly K frame cylinders have a diameter of 1.45" and the Taurus is likely to be similar.
Quality issues aside, a tapered barrel revolver is going to have a completely different balance than a heavy barrel revolver. I don't think Taurus made a tapered barrel but I am not sure.
Bill
